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   On 29/10/2025 19:52, Arne Vajhøj wrote:   
   > On 10/29/2025 2:48 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:   
   >> On 2025-10-29, Dennis Boone  wrote:   
   >>>> It seems to be funny to use. But I don't see for whom this effort is   
   >>>> done - apart hobbyies enthousiasts -.   
   >>   
   >> Actually, this kind of approach seems a perfectly normal option if you   
   >> have any knowledge of embedded systems development. The main difference   
   >> is that you are developing applications to run on top of that embedded   
   >> system instead of pushing a system image via a JTAG port (for example).   
   >>   
   >> I've long thought VMS systems should be considered as some kind of   
   >> a higher-level embedded system where applications are developed locally   
   >> and then packaged up and pushed onto the target VMS system. It looks   
   >> like VSI are moving in that same direction as well.   
   >   
   >>> This sort of thing seems to have worked pretty well for IBM and   
   >>> development for z/OS.  It seems that even developers for such   
   >>> non-mainstream environments still want modern creature comforts.   
   >>   
   >> This is the exact example I was going to use until you beat me to it. :-)   
   >>   
   >> When was the last time a 3270 class terminal for serious z/OS software   
   >> development was acceptable to developers as the only development option ?   
   >   
   > Developing on a different OS than the target is totally standard   
   > today.   
   >   
   > Yes - the 1/3 of development that is native code have some issues   
   > that need solutions.   
   >   
   > But the 2/3 of development that is non-native code (Java, .NET,   
   > Python, JavaScript, PHP etc.) just do it.   
   >   
   > The most common setup today must be development on Windows   
   > targeting Linux servers.   
   >   
   > Arne   
      
   I have used PC editors (various) to edit source code on linux for years,   
   but with VMS I always used LSE for proper code. I never got LSE working   
   well enough for DCL, so I normally used either EVE, or sometimes a PC editor   
      
   I am looking forward to trying this, although my current VM host isn't   
   yet up to it, I have just bought another mini PC to try it out.   
      
   --   
   Chris   
      
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