From: gerard.calliet@pia-sofer.fr   
      
   Le 29/10/2025 à 19:48, Simon Clubley a écrit :   
   > The (potential) business goal is obvious if you have wide enough viewpoint   
   > and not just a VMS-specific viewpoint   
      
   It's the point, Simon. And somehow Chris says the same thing comparing   
   development for VMS and for z/os.   
      
   And again, if we agree on your opinion viewing VMS as some rich embedded   
   OS, again VMS/XDE is worth it.   
      
   And again and again, my view is and has always been VMS-specific. VMS as   
   a specific general OS, indeed.   
      
   It seems now, because the strategy used by VSI or its investor has been   
   for ten years a strategy copied on strategies for legacies OS (like   
   z/os...), the option of a VMS revival as an alternate OS solution is   
   almost dead.   
      
   And so VMS/XDE is a good way making business for five or six years   
   before the real death of VMS. (Because in my opinion, there is no future   
   for an embedded VMS : not its real market, not competitive in the   
   embedded market).   
      
   I heard at Malmö about "and sometime there will be a new VMS". As a wine   
   level on Linux, and an interface to the Oracle cloud, I understand that   
   the best new VMS is just business as usual with no-VMS.   
      
   As you can read, I'm a little bit upset. Because as usual VSI applies   
   strategic decisions without any consultations or explanations. It's for   
   almost ten years, for example, we explain that (real) open source   
   integration (or bare metal) are important. And for ten years we have the   
   same answer: "investments not worth it". And now an important investment   
   for invading the Linux world with non opened solutions (the VMS added   
   value).   
      
   Perhaps it's cool to develop on Linux something for VMS. But, because   
   the licensing is the same ostage-like-for-legacies, I'm not sure we'll   
   get any interest from new  generations of developers.   
      
   Gérard Calliet (the grumpy dwarf).   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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