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   Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOlivei to All   
   Re: And so? (VMS/XDE)   
   01 Nov 25 22:13:08   
   
   From: ldo@nz.invalid   
      
   On Sat, 1 Nov 2025 17:44:02 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote:   
      
   > On 10/30/2025 6:26 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:   
   >>   
   >> On Thu, 30 Oct 2025 15:52:07 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> Developers are important for an OS!   
   >>   
   >> Users attract developers, not so much the other way round.   
   >   
   > No applications mean no users. Nobody is interested in a platform   
   > with no applications.   
      
   And yet Android succeeded, even as the leading developers turned up   
   their noses at it. They much preferred Apple’s platform.   
      
   >> Look at Iphone versus Android: Apple’s platform was seen as way   
   >> cooler, and attracted more of the cool developers. So it got more   
   >> apps. But Android offered a wider range of choice and   
   >> out-of-the-box functionality. That attracted the users. It took   
   >> years for Android to close the app gap, nevertheless that wasn’t   
   >> enough to keep Iphone dominant.   
   >   
   > It took some years before Android got more millions of apps than   
   > iOS.   
   >   
   > But having most millions of apps does not matter. What matters is   
   > that the platform has the apps that are important.   
      
   Which ones were important in the beginning? The big ones on Iphone   
   were simply not available on Android.   
      
   > And it did not take long before most of the important   
   > apps supported both Android and iOS.   
   >   
   >> Remember Windows Phone? But in its user experience it was trying   
   >> too much to ape Apple, which is why it lost out to Android.   
   >   
   > There were multiple reasons for WP's failure. But the most important   
   > was probably lack of apps.   
      
   > Microsoft was paying major developers to put apps on its platform.   
   > It didn’t help.   
   >   
   > Lots of of people did buy a WP device. Sales topped around 35   
   > million/year. Still way behind Android and iOS, but not bad.   
      
   Why was Nokia, the leading Windows Phone device maker, losing money so   
   badly, then?   
      
   > Companies decided to support iOS and Android.   
      
   Initially it was only IOS. They only added Android *after* it became   
   popular.   
      
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