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   John Reagan to All   
   Re: VMS Bootcamp   
   05 Nov 25 09:36:09   
   
   From: johnrreagan@earthlink.net   
      
   On 11/4/2025 10:15 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:   
   > On 11/4/2025 10:10 PM, Robert A. Brooks wrote:   
   >> On 11/4/2025 7:51 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:   
   >>> On 11/4/2025 7:36 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:   
   >>>> https://events.vmssoftware.com/post-portsmouth-bootcamp-2025   
   >>>>   
   >>>> has links to presentations and recordings!   
   >>>   
   >>> Interesting description of TCPIP 7.0.   
   >>>   
   >>> Based on FreeBSD 14.2, will use DUNIX threads, x86-64 only (requires   
   >>> clang), they will implement bmake.   
   >>   
   >> Yeah, it would be tough, but some of us are still holding out hope, but   
   >> the chances are admittedly quite slim that TCP/IP V7.0 might make   
   >> Alpha or IA64.   
   >   
   > Back porting the code to C99 does not make any sense as   
   > future updates will be a nigtmare.   
   >   
   > That leaves:   
   > * bringing clang to Alpha and Itanium   
   > * updating VMS C to newer C (whatever is needed C11 or C23)   
   >   
   > :-(   
   >   
   > Arne   
   >   
   And it is more than just a C compiler, you also need header changes,   
   backend changes (GEM), linker changes (thread local storage), image   
   activator changes, pthreads changes, debugger, etc.   
      
   Moving clang to Alpha/Itanium means finding/resurrecting ancient LLVM   
   targets OR trying to adapt clang to GEM (the reverse of what we've   
   done).  Either way, you still have all the other downstream changes.   
      
   And yes, we're looking at TLS for x86 with TCPIP V7 as an important   
   consumer.   
      
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