From: gerard.calliet@pia-sofer.fr
Le 04/11/2025 à 21:57, Subcommandante XDelta a écrit :
> On 5/11/2025 12:59 am, Simon Clubley wrote:
>> On 2025-11-03, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>
>>> Mainframes were unique in last century regarding integrity, availability
>>> and performance but not today.
>>>
>>> Standard distributed environment, load sharing (horizontal scaling)
>>> applications, standard RDBMS with transaction and XA transaction
>>> support, auto scaling VM or container solutions, massive scaling
>>> capable NoSQL databases.
>>>
>>> It can be made to work.
>>>
>>
>> It can also be made to _appear_ to work. And probably will, at least in
>> the short term.
>>
>>> It can also be made not to work, but ....
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>> I've been thinking quite a bit recently about just how bad monocultures
>> and short term thinking can be from a society being able to continue
>> functioning point of view. Just look at the massive damage done by
>> attacks on major companies here in the UK over the last year, all of
>> which should not have had single points of failure like that. :-(
>>
>> Simon.
>>
>
> Steady on, old chap, going on like that, about the cloud-computing
> clown-car, will get you setting up a chapter, cluster node of the VMS
> Generations group, tout suite, stat! :-)
Because as a french people I'm proud VMSgenerations has been quoted, and
because I see a very interesting thread, I give another taste for the
thread.
The good luck of DEC is bounded with a simple concept: locality. At that
time minicomputers where an alternative to mainframes thanks - but not
only - to locality: you can get computing power next door of your
department or research laboratory.
Been local, or being centralized: it seems all the time we go between
choosing locality because it(s better, and choosing centrality, because
it better, and again, again.
I think VMS could help to choose hybrid solutions. The more critic
operations localy, the less critic operations somewher in a cloud, or
one or two centralized data centers, back-boned by localy known VMS
clusters.
Another key of success of VMS has been mastery. I think VMS as a general
alternative OS can help getting mastery.
So:
1) a general OS can be booted on a bare metal hardware
2) the VM + cloud only solution which is being the future of VMS that
propose VSI is not a way for real hybrid solutions
3) a not general OS, pushed from windows or linux cannot give a real
future to VMS
4) a general OS is supported by a real community, otherwise it cannot be
seen as a long term solution - the way VSI is centralizing the offer,
not opening collaboration on development on Open Sources, the decisions
(made in 2014) to not support users clubs, to not do any marketing are
not good choices to open for a future to a VMS community
(My opinions)
Gérard Calliet
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