From: clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP   
      
   On 2025-11-26, gcalliet  wrote:   
   >   
   > The next question is a consequence. What level of opening, documenting,   
   > offering access for that? It's somehow strange offering a proprietary   
   > tool on Linux: cultural conflict?   
   >   
      
   Hello Gerard,   
      
   Since you are clearly new with Linux, there is one "cultural conflict"   
   I should make you aware of, to avoid you wasting time and frustration   
   in case you come across the same issues.   
      
   Linux has, until now, used the X11 windowing system in the same way as   
   other Unix systems and VMS has done.   
      
   A new windowing system, called Wayland, is being introduced to Linux   
   and unfortunately the people doing this appear to have designed this   
   in isolation without listening to the creators of the major applications   
   running on Linux and are saying that their new way of doing things in   
   Wayland is by design.   
      
   This is causing some major problems. The most high-profile one I am   
   aware of is KiCad at https://www.kicad.org/ and which is a major open   
   source PCB design package.   
      
   The KiCad developers have documented their problems with Wayland here:   
      
   https://www.kicad.org/blog/2025/06/KiCad-and-Wayland-Support/   
      
   Use it as a checklist in case you run into the same kinds of problems   
   while using Linux. If the problems you encounter are on that list,   
   then you know it is not you. :-)   
      
   Simon.   
      
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   Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP   
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