From: gerard.calliet@pia-sofer.fr   
      
   Le 27/11/2025 à 20:18, Simon Clubley a écrit :   
   > On 2025-11-26, gcalliet  wrote:   
   >>   
   >> The next question is a consequence. What level of opening, documenting,   
   >> offering access for that? It's somehow strange offering a proprietary   
   >> tool on Linux: cultural conflict?   
   >>   
   >   
   > Hello Gerard,   
   >   
   > Since you are clearly new with Linux, there is one "cultural conflict"   
   > I should make you aware of, to avoid you wasting time and frustration   
   > in case you come across the same issues.   
   >   
   > Linux has, until now, used the X11 windowing system in the same way as   
   > other Unix systems and VMS has done.   
   >   
   > A new windowing system, called Wayland, is being introduced to Linux   
   > and unfortunately the people doing this appear to have designed this   
   > in isolation without listening to the creators of the major applications   
   > running on Linux and are saying that their new way of doing things in   
   > Wayland is by design.   
   >   
   > This is causing some major problems. The most high-profile one I am   
   > aware of is KiCad at https://www.kicad.org/ and which is a major open   
   > source PCB design package.   
   >   
   > The KiCad developers have documented their problems with Wayland here:   
   >   
   > https://www.kicad.org/blog/2025/06/KiCad-and-Wayland-Support/   
   >   
   > Use it as a checklist in case you run into the same kinds of problems   
   > while using Linux. If the problems you encounter are on that list,   
   > then you know it is not you. :-)   
   >   
   > Simon.   
   >   
   Thanks a lot. Yes very new in Linux.   
      
   I have to install all the Gnat Ada stuff, and then then Gnat Ada on LLVM   
   project. Because perhaps it would be a way to get Ada on VMS/x86.   
      
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