From: arne@vajhoej.dk   
      
   On 12/6/2025 2:45 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:   
   > Let me just say that as the Unix shell advanced from ssh through ksh and   
   > into modern bash (with some csh sidelines), at the same time that all these   
   > great scripting facilities were being added to the shell-- people stopped   
   > using the shell for scripting and moved to special scripting languages like   
   > perl and python.   
   >   
   > So, while I am a fan of the unix shell (and less of a fan of DCL but still   
   > someone who appreciates DCL), I don't think most of the effort that has   
   > gone into making a sophisticated command language has been of that much   
   > use, since how people use the shell has changed.   
   >   
   > That being the case, I would think it would be better to spend the effort   
   > into getting better python integration for VMS than in souping up DCL.   
      
   VMS Python already has quite some VMS integration.   
      
   https://wiki.vmssoftware.com/VMS-Specific_Python_Modules   
      
   I have always wanted something like:   
      
   dcl.init() # open pseudo terminal   
   res1 = dcl.do(command1) # send command to pseudo terminal and return output   
   ...   
   resn = dcl.do(commandn) # send command to pseudo terminal and return output   
   dcl.close() # close pseudo terminal   
      
   Point being that reusing the same DCL process is better than   
   starting a new per command for certain things.   
      
   Arne   
      
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