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   Dan Cross to news@cct-net.co.uk   
   Re: DCL2   
   08 Dec 25 20:13:34   
   
   From: cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net   
      
   In article <10h42ce$3g04g$1@dont-email.me>,   
   Chris Townley   wrote:   
   >On 06/12/2025 19:45, Scott Dorsey wrote:   
   >> Let me just say that as the Unix shell advanced from ssh through ksh and   
   >> into modern bash (with some csh sidelines), at the same time that all these   
   >> great scripting facilities were being added to the shell-- people stopped   
   >> using the shell for scripting and moved to special scripting languages like   
   >> perl and python.   
   >>   
   >> So, while I am a fan of the unix shell (and less of a fan of DCL but still   
   >> someone who appreciates DCL), I don't think most of the effort that has   
   >> gone into making a sophisticated command language has been of that much   
   >> use, since how people use the shell has changed.   
   >>   
   >> That being the case, I would think it would be better to spend the effort   
   >> into getting better python integration for VMS than in souping up DCL.   
   >> (And I really don't like python at all... the indentation being syntax   
   >> reminds me far too much of JCL... but it's what everyone uses today.)   
   >   
   >I think you will find it started with sh (aka the Bourne shell) rather   
   >than ssh!   
      
   I mean, if we want to split hairs, it started well before Bourne   
   was on the scene.  Thompson wrote a rudimentary shell that was   
   the default until Bourne came from the UK and did the 7th Ed   
   shell in pseudo-Algol 68.  :-)   
      
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