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   Simon Clubley to Dan Cross   
   Re: DCL2   
   11 Dec 25 13:11:20   
   
   From: clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP   
      
   On 2025-12-10, Dan Cross  wrote:   
   > In article ,   
   > bill   wrote:   
   >>On 12/8/2025 9:12 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> 6) Nothing matching "man -k" in the DCL HELP facility.   
   >>   
   >>Problems with a lot of what you said, but this one sticks out the most.   
   >>   
   >>DCL is the equivalent of a Unix Shell.  "man -k" has absolutely   
   >>nothing to do with a Unix Shell.  It's a standalone utility that   
   >>searches the man files for keywords.  One could always write an   
   >>equivalent for VMS HELP if anyone really cared.  Heck, you could   
   >>even call it "man" and give it a "k" option.  :-)   
   >   
   > Agreed.  Simon, much on your list was complaints about the   
   > overall interactive VMS environment, not so much about DCL.   
   > E.g., comparing `SEARCH` and `grep` is fine, but drawing   
   > conclusions about DCL as a result does not follow.   
   >   
      
   That may be true in the environments you are used to, but in the VMS   
   world, there's a tendency to regard the standard vendor-supplied   
   DCL commands and DCL itself all as one standard combined package.   
      
   Simon.   
      
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