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   Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOlivei to Sam Thomas   
   Re: DCL2   
   16 Dec 25 22:07:49   
   
   From: ldo@nz.invalid   
      
   On Tue, 16 Dec 2025 17:38:47 -0000 (UTC), Sam Thomas wrote:   
      
   > I work in a big-ish Windows environment. GUI is used when necessary,   
   > and everything else is scripted. With PS. I'm a network engineer, so   
   > I use WSL2 and Linux VMs, but I don't really manage anything   
   > Windows.   
   >   
   > It is well-received amongst the Windows admins I'm surrounded by.   
   > Nobody is saying they wish they could just clicky-click several   
   > hundred times to do something that could go in a for loop. Most of   
   > our Windows VMs don't even have a GUI installed (datacenter   
   > edition).   
   >   
   > As to Arne's earlier question of PS adoption in Linux... Hell NO. PS   
   > runs counter to how *nix people think. It is bloated, excruciatingly   
   > verbose, and its "everything's an object" model breaks pipelining in   
   > the *nix paradigm. This doesn't even address the religious   
   > objections. No thank you.   
      
   Let me see if I understand this: you have Windows-using colleagues who   
   are fond of PowerShell, while you would avoid it like the plague for   
   *nix-based workflows.   
      
   These same colleagues are using the “Datacenter edition” of Windows   
   Server. Worth pointing out that on-prem editions of Windows Server are   
   no longer getting quite the same love from Microsoft as the cloud   
   version. They are putting more effort into the cloud versions going   
   forward.   
      
   And the cloud is, of course, dominated by Linux. So the future of   
   Windows Server here, too, seems a bit limited.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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