From: sam@noneya.com   
      
   Lawrence D?Oliveiro  wrote:   
   > On Tue, 16 Dec 2025 17:38:47 -0000 (UTC), Sam Thomas wrote:   
   >   
   >> I work in a big-ish Windows environment. GUI is used when necessary,   
   >> and everything else is scripted. With PS. I'm a network engineer, so   
   >> I use WSL2 and Linux VMs, but I don't really manage anything   
   >> Windows.   
   >>   
   >> It is well-received amongst the Windows admins I'm surrounded by.   
   >> Nobody is saying they wish they could just clicky-click several   
   >> hundred times to do something that could go in a for loop. Most of   
   >> our Windows VMs don't even have a GUI installed (datacenter   
   >> edition).   
   >>   
   >> As to Arne's earlier question of PS adoption in Linux... Hell NO. PS   
   >> runs counter to how *nix people think. It is bloated, excruciatingly   
   >> verbose, and its "everything's an object" model breaks pipelining in   
   >> the *nix paradigm. This doesn't even address the religious   
   >> objections. No thank you.   
   >   
   > Let me see if I understand this: you have Windows-using colleagues who   
   > are fond of PowerShell, while you would avoid it like the plague for   
   > *nix-based workflows.   
      
   Exactly. I assume if one wants to do scripting for Windows in a way   
   that has reasonable access to system API in a MS-supported way, there   
   is really only one choice. If I want to write for *nix, I have many,   
   many choices.   
      
   > These same colleagues are using the ?Datacenter edition? of Windows   
   > Server. Worth pointing out that on-prem editions of Windows Server are   
   > no longer getting quite the same love from Microsoft as the cloud   
   > version. They are putting more effort into the cloud versions going   
   > forward.   
   >   
   > And the cloud is, of course, dominated by Linux. So the future of   
   > Windows Server here, too, seems a bit limited.   
      
   I know we are moving some workloads to Linux, and especially to   
   Docker/Kubernetes, but we have A LOT of workloads running   
   on Windows server. I don't expect that to change. I'm just a   
   humble network engineer. Most of that is not my problem(tm).   
      
   Cheers,   
   Sam   
      
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