From: clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP   
      
   On 2026-01-13, Arne Vajhøj  wrote:   
   > On 1/13/2026 10:35 AM, gcalliet wrote:   
   >> I begin the year - I hope successfull, happy, and with a good health for   
   >> everyone with a somehow prehistoric question.   
   >>   
   >> Some applications, in general using x11, where linked with this sort of   
   >> library:   
   >> VAXCRTLG_D56_TV_AV.EXE;1   
   >> VAXCRTLG_D56_V73_TV_AV.EXE;1   
   >> VAXCRTL_D56_TV_AV.EXE;1   
   >> VAXCRTL_D56_V73_TV_AV.EXE;1   
   >>   
   >> There are been vesting from VAX to alpha, and doing the same sort of   
   >> operation to itanium.   
   >>   
   >> What has been done for x86? I know some applications using this sort of   
   >> libraries, and without them it's impossible to go ahead.   
   >>   
   >> What has been done? What can be done?   
   >>   
   >> All information wellcomed.   
   >   
   > There were VEST (VAX->Alpha) and AEST (Alpha->Itanium),   
   > but no IEST (Itanium->x86-64).   
   >   
   > Explicit VSI decision I believe.   
   >   
   > But it is not clear to me what you need.   
   >   
   > Many years ago, but as I remember it then if you VEST'ed   
   > FOOBAR.EXE then you needed a VEST'ed RTL's, but if you   
   > compiled and linked FOOBAR then you used the normal RTL's.   
   >   
      
   Indeed. I wonder why Gerard cannot just recompile the application   
   as normal.   
      
   Missing source code ?   
      
   Missing Compiler/tools ?   
      
   Is this some Ada code he's trying to get working on x86-84 ?   
      
   Unless I am mistaken, Arne is correct and this approach stops at Itanium   
   and cannot be carried forward to x86-64.   
      
   Simon.   
      
   PS: It took me a minute to realise why he was talking about pictures. :-)   
   He's clearly taken the french word for "image" and translated it to the   
   english word "picture". That usually works, but not here... :-)   
      
   Simon.   
      
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