From: clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP   
      
   On 2026-01-14, Arne Vajhøj  wrote:   
   > On 1/14/2026 7:25 AM, gcalliet wrote:   
   >> Thanks for the answers. I knew there are been Vest and Aest, and that   
   >> VSI said there will not be any "Iest".   
   >>   
   >> These specific RTL were used in the context of rendering picture by   
   >> Motif+x11. You needed them in the link phase.   
   >>   
   >> I don't remember why Digital/Compaq/HP created these Vested and Aested   
   >> RTL. However the source code of them has never been accessible for   
   >> users. I hope Digital/Compaq/HP had the sources but/and I don't know the   
   >> specific issues which involved their choice of Vesting and Aesting them.   
   >>   
   >> As a technical point, it is a very interesting subject.   
   >>   
   >> But in the term of a port to x86, it could be a blocking point. I'm just   
   >> in the beginning of investigation on that. I'm not sure the applications   
   >> I have to analyze really use these libraries. I only remember that I   
   >> made a port to Itanium of similar applications ten or twenty years ago,   
   >> and it has been helpfull getting Aested libraries.   
   >   
   > Still puzzled.   
   >   
   > You have a VAX with foobar.c that you compile   
   > and link with vaxcrtl on VAX to produce   
   > foobar.exe.   
   >   
   > You copy foobar.exe to Alpha and VEST it. Due to some   
   > incompatibility the new Alpha image is not satisfied   
   > with decc$shr but require a vaxcrtl*tv*.exe.   
   >   
      
   _If_ I read Gerard correctly, this is not the problem. The problem   
   _appears_ to be that DEC created some additional VAX-only RTL and so   
   far Gerard has been able to survive by translating this additional   
   VAX-only RTL to more recent architectures.   
      
   _If_ I understand correctly, then it appears there is no native version   
   of this additional RTL (whatever it is) available on x86-64.   
      
   Gerard needs to give us exact information about this RTL and the   
   functionality it provides so we can suggest alternatives.   
      
   Simon.   
      
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