From: seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid   
      
   On 2026-01-13 15:35:23 +0000, gcalliet said:   
      
   > Hello,   
   >   
   > I begin the year - I hope successfull, happy, and with a good health   
   > for everyone with a somehow prehistoric question.   
   >   
   > Some applications, in general using x11, where linked with this sort of   
   > library:   
   > VAXCRTLG_D56_TV_AV.EXE;1   
   > VAXCRTLG_D56_V73_TV_AV.EXE;1   
   > VAXCRTL_D56_TV_AV.EXE;1   
   > VAXCRTL_D56_V73_TV_AV.EXE;1   
   >   
   > There are been vesting from VAX to alpha, and doing the same sort of   
   > operation to itanium.   
   >   
   > What has been done for x86? I know some applications using this sort of   
   > libraries, and without them it's impossible to go ahead.   
   >   
   > What has been done? What can be done?   
   >   
   > All information wellcomed.   
   >   
   > Gérard Calliet   
      
   I remember porting VAX C K&R-era code to DEC C back in the 1980s. More   
   than a little of that K&R C code my own. Fixing issues. It's   
   exceedingly rare to find VAX C code that isn't unstable at best, and   
   bggy, flaky, and crash-prone. Including my own.   
      
   The then-new DEC C / ANSI C diagnostics found all sorts of questionable   
   code and all too often found latent run-time errors. Which for some   
   developers and some projects meant workarounds were then used to avoid   
   fixing the informationals and the detected errors.   
      
   Here we are, some thirty years on, seemingly preserving that same   
   usually-buggy C code, whether because of budgets or regulations or   
   whatever, or maybe because the source code was lost.   
      
   I'd be surprised "if rendering picture by Motif+x11" was still the case   
   for DECwindows and its apps on Alpha and later, but can fully believe   
   some unidentified Motif tools somewhere were translated and never   
   remediated.   
      
   If some VAX C code is linked against VAXCRTLG or its derivatives, run.   
   Run far away. That's G_Float code, and quite possibly VAX C code   
   written for MicroVAX I or VAXstation.   
      
   If y'all want to discuss which (or whose) DECwindows Motif apps are   
   involved, and whether the source code is available, have at...   
      
      
      
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