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   Message 56,805 of 57,431   
   Julio Di Egidio to David Brown   
   Re: Another little puzzle   
   22 Dec 22 14:15:29   
   
   From: julio@diegidio.name   
      
   On Thursday, 22 December 2022 at 22:07:01 UTC+1, David Brown wrote:   
   > On 22/12/2022 17:30, Julio Di Egidio wrote:   
   > > On Thursday, 22 December 2022 at 16:50:49 UTC+1, David Brown wrote:   
   > >> On 22/12/2022 01:05, Julio Di Egidio wrote:   
   > >>> On Thursday, 22 December 2022 at 01:01:08 UTC+1, Mike Terry wrote:   
   > >>>> On 21/12/2022 21:54, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:   
   > >>>   
   > >>>>> kind of most natural definition, at least to me.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> That is unambiguous, but to my mind not at all what is wanted   
   > >>>   
   > >>> You just dont get it, do you? This is (comp.)programming   
   > >>> where guesswork is a *capital sin*.   
   > >>   
   > >> Programming is all about trying to guess what the customer actually   
   > >> wanted, rather than what they asked for! :-)   
   > >   
   > > Utter nonsense of the usual kind and an entire industry down the drain.   
   > >   
   > > No, we are rather supposed to *elicit* requirements... which is just the   
   > > tip of the (software) analysis iceberg.   
   >   
   > Perhaps I should have put the smiley in a bigger font?   
      
   You can laugh your frauds and bad conscience as much as you like,   
   I am not kidding at all.   
      
   > Of course the correct way to do things is to work with the customer to   
   > establish the requirements and specifications that everyone is happy   
   > with, and then code to those specifications.   
   >   
   > And if it turns out that the specifications were unclear, you clarify   
   > them, rather than guessing.   
      
   No, you don't, you go back to the customer and work together until you   
   do reach again an agreement (indeed analysis, for another big secret,   
   can and should iterate with everything else)... which is still barely 101.   
      
   But you spammers (not to even mention meanwhile the plain vile cunts),   
   "of course" will never concede, and this remains mainly to the benefit of   
   the innocent reader, learning something sensible for a change.. which   
   might even be your employers, for those of you who don't just suck blood.   
      
   Fucking pathetic...   
      
   Julio   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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