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   Amine Moulay Ramdane to All   
   More of my philosophy about the process    
   05 Jan 23 13:44:52   
   
   From: aminer68@gmail.com   
      
   Hello,   
      
      
      
      
   More of my philosophy about the process of reification and more about human   
   consciousness and about artificial intelligence and more of my thoughts..   
      
      
   I am a white arab from Morocco, and i think i am smart since i have also   
   invented many scalable algorithms and algorithms..   
      
      
   Reification is when you think of or treat something abstract as a physical   
   thing. Reification is a complex idea for when you treat something immaterial   
   — like happiness, fear, or evil — as a material thing, so i think that   
   human conscicousness is by    
   logical analogy like    
   the process of Reification, i mean that a concept in our brain is not just a   
   class or object like in object oriented programming, since i mean that a class   
   in object oriented programming is not just a class but it is also reification   
   by our brain, since    
   we are also reifying the class with or by using the true meaning from our   
   human consciousness, so it is like composability since we are composing with   
   consciousnesses of time and space and reality from the low level to the high   
   level, so it is the same    
   for what i am explaining below, since so that to compose the theorem that is   
   known as the transitive property of implication, we have to understand the   
   meaning of the low level constructs such as:  If a then b and if b then c then   
   a then c, so then it is    
   like a reification that we do, since when for example we say: a then b, we are   
   like reifying from the low level constructs of consciousness of time and space   
   and matter to the upper levels. So i invite you to read my previous thoughts   
   so that to    
   understand my views:   
      
      
   More of my philosophy about are we going to have an artificial intelligence   
   winter and about artificial intelligence and more of my thoughts..   
      
   I think i am really really smart, and now i will make a prediction,    
   so from my below kind of logical proof(but of course that i will soon make it   
   a more sophisticated proof), i think it permits me to make a prediction, and   
   it is that there will be an artificial intelligence winter, i mean that what   
   is lacking to    
   artificial intelligence is the meaning from human consciousness, since without   
   this "meaning", it is like a closed system that is limited as i am explaining   
   it below, since the meaning from human consciousness permits to construct from   
   the low level of    
   consciousness of time and space and matter that permits to construct the   
   higher levels, but human smartness with its consciousness is an open system,   
   so it means so that to make it an open system we have to crack the code and   
   understand what is human    
   consciousness.     
      
   More of my philosophy about how to beat artificial intelligence and about   
   artificial intelligence and more of my thoughts..   
      
      
   I think i am highly smart since I have passed two certified IQ tests and i   
   have scored "above" 115 IQ,  and i mean that it is "above" 115 IQ, so now i   
   will ask a philosophical question of:   
      
      
   How to beat artificial intelligence ?   
      
      
   So i think i am smart and i will start by giving you a good example so that   
   you understand:   
      
   So if i say:   
      
   If a then b   
   and    
   if b then c   
      
   A human can logically infer that it means: then a then c   
      
   But the problem in artificial intelligence is that the patterns    
   comes from the data on wich artificial intelligence was trained ,   
   so how for example artificial intelligence does "generalize" the above example   
   and make it a theorem in mathematics?, i mean that so that a human generalizes   
   from the above example he also use the "meaning" from human consciousness, so   
   i think that it is    
   the weakness of artificial intelligence such as ChatGPT or GPT-4, i mean that   
   human consciousness is able to make such generalizations with the help of the   
   meaning from human consciousness when the pattern to be discovered is unknown   
   to artificial    
   intelligence, so you have to understand that human consciousness is also    
   consciousness of space and time and matter that permits to "compose" the   
   meaning , so then you are understanding from my explanation that what is   
   lacking to artificial intelligence    
   is this meaning from the human consciousness that permits smartness to be such   
   sophisticated smartness such as constructing a mathematical theorem from the   
   above example, so now i think you are getting more the bigger picture of it.   
   So i will give you an    
   example of my interactions with ChatGPT so that you understand more,    
   so here it is:   
      
   So i have just asked ChatGPT the following question:   
      
   "Make a theorem of the following: if a then b and if b then c then a then c"   
      
   And here is what answered ChatGPT:   
      
   "The theorem can be stated as follows:   
      
   If a implies b, and if b implies c, then a implies c.   
      
   This theorem is known as the transitive property of implication, or the   
   principle of transitivity. It states that if a statement (a) implies another   
   statement (b), and if that statement (b) in turn implies a third statement   
   (c), then the original    
   statement (a) must also imply the third statement (c). This principle holds   
   for all statements that have the logical structure of implication, regardless   
   of the specific content of the statements."   
      
      
   So if you are smart you will notice that in the above answer of ChatGPT,   
   ChatGPT is not understanding the meaning of the theorem, and it has    
   not constructed the theorem from the low level constructs such as in my above   
   example, but it is just discovering the theorem from the patterns on the data   
   on wich it has been trained, so now you are understanding the limit of the   
   smartness of ChatGPT    
   and of artificial intelligence, and of course i think you are now   
   understanding how to beat artificial intelligence, since i think that   
   artificial intelligence such as ChatGPT needs patterns that help it compose   
   other new patterns, but it can not compose    
   a pattern if the patterns that compose it are lacking from the data on wich it   
   has been trained, so you can compose this pattern by using the meaning from   
   human consciousness as in my above example.     
      
   More of my philosophy about energy consumption of artificial intelligence such   
   as ChatGPT or GPT-4 and about artificial intelligence and more of my thoughts..   
      
      
      
      
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