From: julio@diegidio.name   
      
   On 29/07/2025 18:24, Julio Di Egidio wrote:   
   > On 29/07/2025 17:37, David Brown wrote:   
   >   
   >> But one thing that bothers me is that Rust advocates almost invariably   
   >> compare modern Rust, programmed by top-rank programmers interested in   
   >> writing top-quality code, with ancient C written by people who may   
   >> have very different abilities and motivations.   
   >   
   > Which is another piece of the same propaganda and self-fulfilling   
   > prophecies: rather, once upon a time we knew way *better*, and   
   > still do, as we have also never stopped learning and improving.   
   >   
   > Not trying to detracting from anybody's work in particular, but   
   > the mainstream myths, the rationale and the methods even before   
   > any techniques, are upside-down to put it charitably.   
   >   
   > Indeed, not to even mention any respect for competence and   
   > experience, with all that that implies in terms of growing   
   > and learning, now especially good luck with that "safety"...   
      
   The whole thing is completely misguided: e.g. I have been   
   writing device drivers for few years in C with zero bugs,   
   some of which are still in operation today; or, I have   
   written apps in VBA, because only that could do... etc.   
      
   Meaning, I/we can use *any* language (platform) that at least   
   does as advertised, and still get the job done and done well:   
   indeed which language I/we end up using is merely a matter of   
   (availability and) *convenience* and nothing more than that.   
      
   And so on up to again the global economic, social, and   
   cultural scenario, of which the sorry state of an entire   
   and so critical industry is but an instrumental part.   
      
   > Anyway, enough of that.  (EOD.)   
      
   I wish. ;)   
      
   -Julio   
      
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