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   Julio Di Egidio to Julio Di Egidio   
   Re: Informal discussion: comp.lang.rust?   
   03 Aug 25 18:17:34   
   
   From: julio@diegidio.name   
      
   On 03/08/2025 17:55, Julio Di Egidio wrote:   
   > On 30/07/2025 19:08, Julio Di Egidio wrote:   
   >> On 29/07/2025 14:16, Dan Cross wrote:   
   >>> In article <106a04v$2hiar$1@dont-email.me>,   
   >>> Julio Di Egidio   wrote:   
   >>>> On 29/07/2025 00:18, Dan Cross wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> I'm not terribly interested in marketing slogans, to be honest.   
   >>>>> "Safety" in this case has a very well-defined meaning, which may   
   >>>>> not be the same as yours.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Maybe you don't realise it, but you are *only* repeating   
   >>>> the fake history and the fraudulent marketing slogans.   
   >>>   
   >>> Unsupported assertions coupled with a lack of engagement   
   >>   
   >> Or maybe you just can't read.   
   >>   
   >>> and provide data.   
   >>   
   >> Sure, biased data for worse than wrong models that only   
   >> confirm themselves... Meanwhile real production is in the   
   >> hands of the marketing and project management guys, while   
   >> at writing code you want the computer scientists, in that   
   >> proving that you not [only] haven't got the faintest idea   
   >> what software even means, but also you haven't got a clue   
   >> where your own discipline starts and where it ends!   
   >   
   > On the "software crisis":   
   > << [...] just there is an essential distinction to make, between   
   > proper and improper software production, with the vast majority of   
   > the software endeavours nowadays belonging to the latter category.   
   > Then, and just to begin with, the very shape of the industry-specific   
   > performance surveys would change... In fact, I would claim that proper   
   > software developers (and, scaling up, proper software production units)   
   > do, already today, consistently provide near to optimal results, all   
   > environmental circumstances considered! >>   
   >    
      
   Roughly a decade later, the 95% becomes 99%:   
      
   Collective disaster:   
   << [...] just the poorly thought out and written code that is   
   ubiquitous nowadays, in all guidance as in all practice, is   
   actually a cost, not just worthless: a generally unperceived   
   cost since that is 99% of the industry by now, indeed the very   
   rationale that founds and sustains it is that that is the best   
   we can do. >>   
      
      
   -Julio   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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