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   Julio Di Egidio to Julio Di Egidio   
   Re: Informal discussion: comp.lang.rust?   
   03 Aug 25 17:55:12   
   
   From: julio@diegidio.name   
      
   On 30/07/2025 19:08, Julio Di Egidio wrote:   
   > On 29/07/2025 14:16, Dan Cross wrote:   
   >> In article <106a04v$2hiar$1@dont-email.me>,   
   >> Julio Di Egidio   wrote:   
   >>> On 29/07/2025 00:18, Dan Cross wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> I'm not terribly interested in marketing slogans, to be honest.   
   >>>> "Safety" in this case has a very well-defined meaning, which may   
   >>>> not be the same as yours.   
   >>>   
   >>> Maybe you don't realise it, but you are *only* repeating   
   >>> the fake history and the fraudulent marketing slogans.   
   >>   
   >> Unsupported assertions coupled with a lack of engagement   
   >   
   > Or maybe you just can't read.   
   >   
   >> and provide data.   
   >   
   > Sure, biased data for worse than wrong models that only   
   > confirm themselves... Meanwhile real production is in the   
   > hands of the marketing and project management guys, while   
   > at writing code you want the computer scientists, in that   
   > proving that you not [only] haven't got the faintest idea   
   > what software even means, but also you haven't got a clue   
   > where your own discipline starts and where it ends!   
      
   On the "software crisis":   
   << [...] just there is an essential distinction to make, between   
   proper and improper software production, with the vast majority of   
   the software endeavours nowadays belonging to the latter category.   
   Then, and just to begin with, the very shape of the industry-specific   
   performance surveys would change... In fact, I would claim that proper   
   software developers (and, scaling up, proper software production units)   
   do, already today, consistently provide near to optimal results, all   
   environmental circumstances considered! >>   
      
      
   -Julio   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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