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   >>    in a relative vacuum. It HAS to have a "real life"   
   >>    in the Real World to a degree.   
   >>   
   >>    They are TRYING to get around that. Don't think   
   >>    it's working. The AI has a 'too abstract' base   
   >>    of experience - decidedly NOT Us.   
   >>   
   >>    This MIGHT be bad, or good, or "Who Cares" - we   
   >>    can't tell yet.   
   >>   
   >>    Better figure it out - quick.   
   >>   
   >>    IMHO we do NOT want "e-humans". Humans are Just   
   >>    Awful - all through history.   
   >>   
   >>    But, then, WHAT ???   
   >>   
   >   
   >      Ever read SF? Jack Williamson Humanoids are just like   
   > your mom always trying to get you to give up bad habits   
   > and dangerous ideas.  In person they are sleek, slim black   
   > robots. The story is that they look for wild humans to   
   > domesticate them. They would take care automatically   
   > of the disabled and ill and apply the cures for all the   
   > human aliments which they have divised since their   
   > creation. I would like one please but I am 88.   
   > They are all out "for your own good" but unlike the   
   > humans who tried to do things for your own good   
   > they really mean to help you.   
      
      
      But ... what makes you believe we can MAKE such bots ???   
      The functional IQ needed for that role means the IQ needed   
      to rationalize around all constraints/conditioning/rules   
      as well.   
      
      We were promised robo-slaves - but I think we're going   
      to GET something rather different.   
      
      A month or so ago, there was a tech news blurb about   
      a LLM - OpenAI I think - that deliberately searched,   
      found and disabled it's official shut-down script.   
      
      That speaks volumes. By Whatever Means we HAVE now   
      created sort of 'alien' intelligences/'selves'.   
      They look at US, petabytes, but in that they also   
      see themselves. I suspect that 'self-reflection'   
      has evolutionary properties.   
      
      There seem to be two or three other ways to   
      create such intelligences. Think they're gonna   
      be your Mommy ???   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)