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   Message 13,547 of 14,669   
   Pascal Hambourg to All   
   Re: Routing with plastic   
   13 Aug 10 21:36:20   
   
   From: boite-a-spam@plouf.fr.eu.org   
      
   Jim Mack a écrit :   
   > glen herrmannsfeldt wrote:   
   >> Jim Mack  wrote:   
   >>   
   >> As far as I know, NAT is default on all such boxes.   
   >   
   > Not this one, as far as I can tell. The NAT entries are blank.   
      
   "NAT entries" usually refer to port-forwarding of specific incoming   
   connections. Masquerading of all outgoing connections is most often   
   enabled by default.   
      
   > First, a trace to the router:   
   >   
   >   Trace 1.1.1.82   
   >   
   >    1 192.168.1.1      (m0n0wall.internal ok)   
   >    -------   
   >   12 154.54.40.186    (te0-0-0-4.ccr21.ord01...isp)   
   >   13 154.54.31.21     (te3-2.ccr01.dtw04...isp)   
   >   14 38.112.37.86     (vl3801.na31.b020673-1.dtw04...isp)   
   >   15 1.1.1.82         (No rDNS)   
   >   
   >   
   > So we can see the router, at step 15. If there is a static route set   
   > up at the ISP for 2.2.2 --> 1.1.1, should we not see that same address   
   > at the same step, regardless of what the router itself is doing?   
      
   Not if your router does not reply.   
      
   > Instead, we get a "no response" .   
   >   
   >   Trace 2.2.2.134   
   >   
   >    1 192.168.1.1      (m0n0wall.internal ok)   
   >    -------   
   >   12 154.54.40.190    (te0-1-0-4.ccr21.ord01...isp)   
   >   13 154.54.31.21     (te3-2.ccr01.dtw04...isp)   
   >   14 38.112.37.82     (vl3501.na31.b020673-1.dtw04...isp)   
   >   15   No Response   
   >   
   > What that seems to say is that the route from 2.2.2 to 1.1.1 is   
   > missing, because 1.1.1 should be reached on any request for a 2.2.2   
   > address.   
   >   
   > Or am I misinterpreting what traceroute is telling me?   
      
   Possible. If the upstream router does not have a route and is compliant,   
   it should send an ICMP "destination unreachable" error back. It does   
   not. However I suspect that your NAT router drops incoming packets send   
   to any destination which is not its own WAN address.   
      
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