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|    KP KP to Dewey Henize    |
|    Re: Security comments, response to <4384    |
|    14 Aug 22 12:44:20    |
      From: jungletrain@outlook.com              On Monday, November 28, 1988 at 10:14:49 AM UTC-8, Dewey Henize wrote:       > I have tried several times to mail this to sswat, but it appears it isn't       > possible to get mail from here to there. My apologies in advance to those       > that are bored with the subject, please feel free to hit 'n' now. Following       > is the text of a letter I attempted several times to get to him.       > -------------------       >        > Allow me to congratulate you, please, on an EXCELLENT article. You hit a        > great many points, and I felt you handled them particularly well. Thank       > you.       > May I please note, as the one who first suggested that Morris (or whoever       > the clown releasing the worm was) have the [I believe my words were] shit       > beat out of him, that I DO NOT and never did advocate that as a simple and       > final solution. It has been portrayed that way, and a great deal of the       > other comments since have seemed to take the dichotomous stands you describe,       > yet I feel and believe most other serious people feel that a combination       > of solutions are necessary. I still feel that a message should be sent that       > its not ok to trash other peoples property to prove you can. I also feel       > that each site has responsibilities to do the best that they are capable of       > doing to limit unauthorized access; and I feel that in that regard the       > current world we live in is being let down by many, if not all of the       > vendors. And so on.       > I do like the idea of 'licensed' crackers. This would imply a bit of real       > expertise AND accountability. I've seen a lot posted of late that would       > imply all too many people are ready to set themselves up as the judge of       > my systems and rampage and destroy just to 'make me aware it can be done'.       > Well, I'm aware already, and I would welcome constructive criticisms from       > any reasonable sources, as I always have. Or, heck, I'd be more than        > glad to have free labor do much of the grunt work I do already in my       > usual 70+ hour week. I don't have that luxury, though... Yet, if I knew       > that people who were responsible and mature (regardless of calendar age)       > were making a best effort to detect areas that I could be reasonably asked       > to handle and would let me know the results in ways that didn't trash       > everything, I'd be extremely supportive.       > Anyway, I've taken enough of your time. Thanks for reading this far. Again,       > let me thank you for a really good article with a lot of good information       > in it. I hope it's recieved as well and widespread as it should be.       > Dewey Henize       > Execucom Systems Corp       > 512-346-4980       > --        > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=       =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-       > | There is nothing in the above message that can't be explained by sunspots.       |       > | execu!dewey Dewey Henize |       > | Can you say standard disclaimer? I knew you could. Somehow... |       Thanks to you.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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