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|    Skybuck Flying to All    |
|    Bitcoin scalability & financial & compet    |
|    17 Feb 23 08:57:24    |
      From: skybuckflying@gmail.com              Bitcoin scalability & financial & competition problems and solutions:              Link to youtube video discussing the above topics:              https://youtube.com/live/zT0fs8KtaG8              List of concepts discussed/tags of video:       Bitcoin, Problems, Scalability, Financial, Costs, Competitor, Solutions,              Distribution, Coins, Bittorrent, Merkle Hash Tree, Tree Numbering, Tree Node       Number              Translation, Redundancy, Risks, Storage, Root Hash, Intermediate Hash, Binary       Tree,              Growing Binary Tree, Tree Storage, Energy, Magnets, Glass, Lasers, Holy, 3D       Glass,              Seeking, Bandwidth, Network, Scanning, Number of Peers, Number of Nodes,       Number of              Blocks, Tree Blocks, Virtual Tree, Computational Tree, Partial Tree, Bitsets,              Compressed Bitset.              17 FEBRUARY 2023 BY SKYBUCK FLYING.              (Sorry for Caps, don't mean to scream or anything, just makes it a bit easier       to              read on highly compressed video images)              Lately I have been thinking about the "financial costs" of the banking system.              Today I also more or less considered the "financial costs" of bitcoin.              And I more or less came to the conclusion that bitcoin might actually be more              expensive then the centralized banking system in a certain way, if true then I       think              this high financial cost problem should be solved.              Bitcoin should be cheaper than the centralized banking system and not more              expensive.              I AM GOING TO DISCUSS THREE IMPORTANT TOPICS IN THIS VIDEO:              1. THE FINANCIAL COSTS OF BITCOIN AND HOW TO REDUCE IT.              2. THE SCALABILITY PROBLEM OF BITCOIN AND HOW TO REDUCE/SOLVE IT. THE       SCALABILITY              PROBLEM ALSO AFFECTS/CAUSES TO FINANCIAL PROBLEM TO A CERTAIN DEGREE. IT ALSO              RELATES A LITTLE BIT TO THE MINING PROBLEM.              3. THE COMPETITOR PROBLEM.              4. THE MINING PROBLEM/COIN DISTRIBUTION PROBLEM.              THE MOTIVATION HERE:              IS DRIVING DOWN COSTS, BECAUSE COSTS ARE EXPLODING ACROSS EUROPE AT LEAST AND       MAYBE              THE WORLD, POSSIBLY DRIVEN BY POLITICS, GREEN MOVEMENT, DRIVING UP PRICES              ARTIFICIALLY, ENERGY CRISIS, ENERGY PRICE HIKES AND ALSO SOME WAR AND TRADE       BANS AND              KICKING COUNTRIES OUT OF THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM/SWIFT.              LIFE IS BECOMING EXPENSIVE, HOW TO REDUCE COSTS ?!              COMPETITION IS GOOD, BITCOIN COULD BECOME A COMPETITOR FOR THE FINANCIAL              BANKS/SYSTEM AND OFFER A CHEAPER ALTERNATIVE....                     TO MAKE THE BITCOIN PROBLEMS PERFECTLY CLEAR IT HELPS TO EXAGARETTE THE       PROBLEMS.              EUROPE CASE: IMAGINE IF 300.000.000 IN EUROPE START USING BITCOIN.       WORLD CASE: PROBLEMS WILL BE EVEN BIGGER IF 7.000.000.000 BITCOIN.              THE BITCOIN PROBLEMS:                     1. THE FINANCIAL COSTS/PROBLEM AND WHAT CAUSES IT.       &       2. THE SCALABILITY PROBLEM.              BASICALLY EVERYBODY, EVERY FULL NODE HAS TO COPY/DOWNLOAD THE ENTIRE       BLOCKCHAIN AND              THIS LEADS TO THE SITUATION WHERE EVERYBODY THAT WANTS TO RUN A FULL/SECURE       NODE OF              HAVING TO BUY AT LEAST A VERY BIG EXPENSIVE HARDDISK.              300.000.000 X 1 HARDDISK X 500 EURO = 150.000.000.000 EUROS              NOW COMPARE THAT TO BANKS,CENTRALIZED BANKS              THE ONLY NEED A FRACTION OF THESE AMMOUNTS OF HARDDISKS              BANKS REQUIRE MUCH LESS HARDDISKS IF THEY USE A CENTRALIZED SYSTEM.              ALSO MAKING ALL THESE COPIES, REQUIRES A LOT OF BANDWIDTH AS WELL, ALSO A LOT       OF              PROCESSING POWER, WHICH ALSO MEANS MORE ENERGY ETC.              TRANSACTION COSTS FOR BITCOIN ARE QUITE HIGH, BECAUSE STORAGE SPACE IS SO       LIMITED,              IT IS BEING USED INEFFICIENTLY, BECAUSE OF ALL THESE MANY COPIES.              IF THE NUMBER OF COPIES WAS REDUCED AND INSTEAD THE HARDDISK SPACE MORE       EFFICIENTLY              USED, THIS COULD ALLOW THE BLOCK-SIZE OF BITCOIN TO BECOME BIGGER/LARGER AND       WOULD              ALLOW MORE TRANSACTIONS TO BE STORED IN THIS BLOCK, BASICALLY ALLOWING MORE              TRANSACTIONS PER 10 MINUTES, BASICALLY MORE TRANSACTIONS PER MINUTE BASICALLY       AND              WOULD RELIEF SOME OF THE PRESSURE ON THE SYSTEM, BECAUSE BASICALLY USERS OF       TODAYS              BITCOIN HAVE TO COMPETE WITH EACH OTHER TO GET THERE TRANSACTION THROUGH,       BECAUSE              THE TRANSACTION STORAGE SPACE IS LIMITED AND ONLY THE TRANSACTIONS WHICH OFFER       THE              HIGHEST TRANSACTION FEES ARE PROCESSED AND STORED IN THE BLOCKCHAIN...              IF EVERYBODY WOULD START USING BITCOIN IN IT'S CURRENT FORM IT WOULD DRIVE UP              TRANSACTION COSTS AND WOULD MAKE BITCOIN EVEN MORE EXPENSIVE.                     THE MORE OR LESS CURRENT FINANCIAL BANKING SYSTEM COSTS ESTIMATION:              IT COSTS MONEY TO HAVE A BANKING ACCOUNT.              4 EURO PER MONTH FOR AN BANKING ACCOUNT.              EUROPE CASE:       300.000.000 PEOPLE x 12 MONTHS X 4 EURO = 14.400.000.000 EUROS PER YEAR.              EVERY BANK TRANSACTION MORE OR LESS COSTS:              15 EURO CENTS.              BUT SOME MIGHT BE MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE LIKE INTERNATIONAL TRANSACTIONS.              THIS COULD PROBABLY ADD ANOTHER FEW BILLION TO THIS COST NUMBER.              I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT COSTS HERE...              BUT THERE IS AN INCENTIVE FOR BANKS TO GET RID OF COMPETITORS INCLUDING CASH...              SO THAT IF EVERYTHING GOES VIA THEIR SYSTEMS, IT WILL DRIVE UP TRANSACTIONS       AND THUS              THEY CAN ALSO MAKE A BIG PROFIT.              ROUGHLY SPEAKING AFTER 10 YEARS, BITCOIN AND BANKS ARE BREAK EVEN, EXCEPT BANKS              ACTUALLY SERVE A MUCH LARGE COMMUNITY.              RIGHT NOW I WOULD ESTIMATE BITCOIN AND BANKS ARE BREAK EVEN AFTER 10 YEARS, SO              CURRENTLY THERE IS NO REAL COST REDUCTION, WHICH SUCKS.              3. THE COMPETITOR PROBLEM.              BANKS HAVE WAKEN UP, CENTRALIZED BANKS HAVE WAKEN UP, AND THEY HAVE BECOME A       BIT              NERVOUS ABOUT THIS BITCOIN TECHNOLOGY... THEY SEE IT AS A POTENTIAL THREAT TO       THEIR              BUSSINESS/BUSSINESS MODEL AND THEY WORRY ABOUT BITCOIN IF IT WOULD EVOLVE INTO              SOMETHING MORE EFFICIENT... THEN BITCOIN COULD BECOME A SERIOUS COMPETITOR FOR              BANKS.              FOR NOW THE BANKS HAVE STARTED PLANNING, WHICH YOU MAY HAVE HEARD OF, A       CENTRALIZED              DIGITAL CURRENCY/BANKING SYSTEM. BASICALLY SOME KIND OF DISTRIBUTED LEDGER       SYSTEM              AMONG BANKS THEMSELFES... AND THEN LIGHT CLIENTS WOULD PROBABLY COMMUNICATE       WITH              THESE HEAVY NODES RUNNING AT THE CENTRALIZED BANKS.              I REFER YOU TO GEORGE GAMMON'S YOUTUBE VIDEOS ABOUT THIS AND OTHERS THEN       DISCUSS IT              IN MORE DETAIL HOW THAT COULD WORK AND HOW IT WOULD EFFECT THE FINANCIAL       SYSTEM.              TO SUM UP GEORGE GAMMON'S HYPOTHESIS OF HOW THIS WOULD WORK:       1. COMMERCIAL BANKS WOULD KEEP SERVICING/MAKING LOANS TO COMMERCIAL              ENTITIES/ENTERPRISES/BUSSINESS.              2. THE CITIZEN ACCOUNTS WOULD TRANSFER/TRANSITION FROM THE COMMERCIAL BANKS TO       A              CENTRALIZED BANK, THIS CENTRALIZED BANK WOULD THEN GET A LOT OF INSIGHT INTO       THE              TRANSACTIONS OF ALL THE CITIZENS.              3. THE COLLECTION OF DATA ABOUT CITIZENS, FACE SCANNING, MOUTH SCANNING AND              PASSING/COLLECTING OF DATA OF BUSSINESS ANYWAY <- MIGHT BE INEVITEABLE.                     [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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