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   Message 54,930 of 56,720   
   Bob Piltz to fadden   
   Re: CiderPress v4.1.0 released   
   17 Aug 21 22:58:14   
   
   From: bpiltz@gmail.com   
      
   On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 10:40:02 PM UTC-7, fadden wrote:   
   > On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 7:09:10 PM UTC-7, Bob Piltz wrote:    
   > > I simply don't understand the need to "update to modern build tools" and   
   the needless regression of not supporting Windows XP systems.   
   > There are two practical reasons:    
   > (1) I don't have a WinXP system to test on. The last few releases have been   
   a guessing game as to whether they would actually work, and I'm not   
   comfortable with that.    
   > (2) There have been some modern updates to things like standard file dialogs   
   that I wasn't able to use in the last major "refresh" because they didn't   
   exist until Vista or later.    
   >    
   > Building for WinXP requires a separate set of tools (v120_xp), and I'd   
   rather not have to deal with those going forward since I doubt they're still   
   maintained.    
   I appreciate the response, which of course is very decent of you. I know   
   you're between a rock and a hard place. My complaint, if you want to call it   
   that, is more directed toward those who put out build tools and always make   
   new versions imcompatible    
   with older releases (by purpose, by design, who knows?) and not at the   
   application programmers such as yourself. Older versions of Ciderpress will   
   continue to work on XP, it is true, and nothing can change that. I had heard   
   there was also a kind of patch    
   to the .exe header which will make the version VS studio 13 binaries XP   
   compatible (backwards compatible with ver 12).   
      
   Again, I am glad that some understand that as much compatibility as possible   
   is always a good thing, especially for working with 35-year old stuff. For,   
   compatibility will only decrease in the future as both the hardware and the   
   toolchains become rare    
   and unobtainable.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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