From: CUTjeffrey_blakeney@yahoo.ca   
      
   On 2022-08-19 10:48 a.m., Anthony Ortiz wrote:   
   > Also I'm not stuck on the 65C832, right now this is all just talk,   
   > just trying to see what the veterans here think the successor should   
   > look like if one had been made for the 32-bit world, just a bunch of   
   > locker-room talk for now. I'll be happy just to get this 1ghz 6502   
   > going, lol!   
      
   Back when the 65832 was first being discussed I was really wanting to   
   see it come into being but today, I don't think it will add a whole lot   
   to the Apple II experience.  It would add a little bit but it wouldn't   
   add the modern things that people would really like to see today.  Even   
   back then, when I saw the preliminary documentation for it, it was   
   lacking things that would have been needed.  It is probably possible to   
   come up with a 65832 design that is backwards compatible to the 65816   
   and has modern capabilities but it would be a lot of work and take quite   
   some time to work out all the bugs.   
      
   Using an ARM right now, you could write firmware that would allow you to   
   run older 8 and 16 bit applications using an emulated 65816 but would   
   give you all the capabilities of the ARM for creating a new version of   
   GS/OS that could even be made multi threaded.  A 65832 that allows multi   
   threading and possibly other modern processor capabilities would be   
   almost as different from a 65816 as an ARM would be anyway.  There are   
   already cross compilers for ARM processors so development could start   
   immediately without the need to "extend" existing compilers but it would   
   be more of a rewrite to add the new capabilities anyway.   
      
   I think the majority of the IIgs experience comes from the user   
   interface which is not dependent on what processor it is running on.   
   This is why I consider a IIgs emulator a IIgs even though I run it on a   
   Ryzen 7 processor under Windows.  Keeping the FST system and other parts   
   that make it unique and useful is more a priority for me.  I think the   
   one thing I would like to see changed, especially if we can get higher a   
   resolution desktop, is to lose the menu bar locked at the top of the   
   screen and have them at the top of the windows instead.   
      
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