From: guidero@gmail.com   
      
   On Thursday, October 6, 2022 at 2:23:53 AM UTC-7, james... wrote:   
   > On Thursday, October 5, 2017 at 6:26:03 AM UTC+9, MG wrote:    
   > > On Thursday, September 28, 2017 at 5:38:48 PM UTC-7, roger... wrote:    
   > > > romid_maciie_0 .equ $FBBE ; 0   
   > > ...that byte is the version of the Apple IIe Card firmware and is   
   different among several versions of the "IIe Startup" application (2.2.2d1 is   
   $03 at $FBBE).    
   >    
   > Actually,    
      
   ...   
      
   > "FBBE" appears to pertain exclusively to FIRMWARE (not the IIe Startup   
   application SOFTWARE), because when I type the following two commands at a   
   BASIC prompt (with the IIe Card installed in an LC575 motherboard)...    
   >    
   > CALL -151    
   > FBBE    
   >    
   > ...it says FBBE is 03 regardless of whether I use version 2.2.1 or 2.2.2d1   
   of the IIe Startup app. (I cannot run II Setup app versions older than 2.2.1   
   because when I try, it throws the error: "Unable to continue because of a   
   fatal error. Error # 10019.   
   ")    
      
   I fail to see how any of that contradicts what I said.  I literally said "that   
   byte is the version of the Apple IIe Card firmware," which, BTW, is contained   
   in the IIe Startup Application and loaded into the card when it starts - there   
   is no actual ROM    
   on the card.  I said it was different among several versions of IIe Startup   
   (as they vary on which firmware they ship), not unique to each version of IIe   
   Startup.   
      
   > Interesting aside: when I try the same commands on the Virtual ][ emulator,   
   it says FBBE is 00.   
      
   That's because Virtual II is emulating a normal Apple IIe, not a IIe Card, and   
   the normal Apple IIe firmware has $FBBE=$00.   
      
   MG   
      
   P.S. if you wish to examine the Apple IIe Card firmware as contained in the   
   IIe Startup application: http://apple2.guidero.us/doku.php/mg_no   
   es/iie_card/iie_startup_resources   
      
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