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   Francois LE COAT to Chris Ridd   
   Re: [video] ATARI ST at CES'85   
   12 Feb 25 21:30:37   
   
   From: lecoat@atari.org   
      
   Hi,   
      
   Chris Ridd writes:   
   > Francois LE COAT wrote:   
   >>>>>> I watched this from a link on Facebook - pretty interesting stuff!   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Loved the way that TOS desktop was using DRI GEM PC icons and sort of   
   >>>>>> resembled a Mac (Lisa?). Coolness.  :)   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> It looks quite like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/    
   >>>>> GEM_(desktop_environment)#/media/File:Gem_11_Desktop.png    
   >>>>   
   >>>> The Graphic Environment Manager (GEM) from Digital Research existed   
   >>>> both   
   >>>> for ATARI ST and IBM/PC (or AmstradPC, or whateverPC) written mainly in   
   >>>> "C" language, portable, and almost free software now. It could be    
   >>>> ported   
   >>>> on the ATARI VCS (a computer from ATARI S.A.!) so that ported ATARI 68k   
   >>>> software (written in "C", cross-compiled, like mine) could run with it,   
   >>>> eventually with the usage of a virtual machine in a first period, like   
   >>>> ARAnyM. That's how Apple have done with the Mac, transitioning 68k ->   
   >>>> PPC -> Intel -> ARM. Transitioning from Apple, was simple to users and   
   >>>> developers, ask them! I've lived it using all different Apple    
   >>>> computers.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> That could be the rebirth of ATARI computers, forty years after ST =)   
   >>>> I'm not kidding! Do you know GEM, ATARI VCS, "C" language, ARAnyM, Mac?   
   >>>   
   >>> Actually I'd be kind of intrigued if someone can build Aranym for    
   >>> iPad. The hardware is really pretty powerful and I'm sure SDL    
   >>> supports iOS. Think different!   
   >>   
   >> Well, iPad is a tactile mobile device, and not a computer. ARAnyM means   
   >> "ATARI Running on Any Machine", that means on any computer. The ATARI   
   >> virtual machine is not supposed to be supported on the iPad device.   
   >    
   > Well I disagree. An iPad is just a machine, and I don't see anywhere in    
   > the Aranym docs restricting what hardware it is "supposed" to run on. In    
   > fact on https://aranym.github.io it explicitly says "any kind of hardware".   
   >    
   > The mouse emulation would be an interesting challenge, though of course    
   > iPads do support pointing devices nowadays.   
      
   Do you know the status of ARAnyM developments? There's only one   
   developer for the macOS target, and the support of Apple Silicon is   
   hardly working, though the JIT compiler is not supported yet. Before   
   thinking about an iOS support, there's a lot to be done with macOS!   
      
   There's numerous developers for the Hatari emulator, but a very few   
   for the ARAnyM virtual machine. That's a real misery, and I'm the   
   only one testing macOS versions, because all developers have gone :-(   
   If you want to help ARAnyM devels, then you're welcome. But I think   
   that iOS or iPad OS support is totally out of question for the moment.   
      
   If all computers were correctly supported, we could then think about   
   mobile devices. But it is not at all, in the sensitive subjects for now.   
      
   You're dreaming. But the reality is sad. We talk here about computers.   
      
   Regards,   
      
   --    
   François LE COAT   
   Author of Eureka 2.12 (2D Graph Describer, 3D Modeller)   
   https://eureka.atari.org/   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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