From: chrisridd@mac.com   
      
   On 13/02/2025 17:30, Francois LE COAT wrote:   
   > Hi,   
   >   
   > Chris Ridd writes:   
   >> Francois LE COAT wrote:   
   >>> Do you know the status of ARAnyM developments? There's only one   
   >>> developer for the macOS target, and the support of Apple Silicon is   
   >>> hardly working, though the JIT compiler is not supported yet. Before   
   >>> thinking about an iOS support, there's a lot to be done with macOS!   
   >>   
   >> Of course I do, and it does look a bit of a mess. If your "one   
   >> developer for the macOS target" is Philipp Donze, then he doesn't   
   >> upstream his changes :-(   
   >   
   > Well the mess is not from developers, but from GitHub that is a   
   > Microsoft technology. I don't understand anything to GitHub, that   
   > is rather intended to Windows developers exclusively, I suspect.   
      
   I'm not sure. I don't perceive a Windows bias in Github, after all it   
   was used for open source projects for a very long time before Microsoft   
   bought GitHub.   
      
   >> Having said that, I did build the MacAranym-Latest.xcodeproj a while   
   >> ago, create a small improvement to the screenshot code, and I do run   
   >> it on an M1. The "main" MacAranym.xcodeproj is no longer buildable on   
   >> any modern Mac/Xcode.   
   >   
   > That's what we're talking. For instance for the Hatari projects, there's   
   > releases, and developments. But for ARAnyM it's not the case, at all.   
   > If there was a favorite developments platform, like the ATARI VCS, that   
   > would make things easier. x86 ARAnyM target is the most accomplished,   
   > for Windows, macOS and GNU/Linux. For ARM all is rather experimental.   
   > Among GitHub, all CPU targets, the situation for devels is inextricable.   
   > Specially for old software like ARAnyM, that is in delicate situation.   
   > It seems to me that peoples are discouraged with the GitHub complexity.   
      
   Perhaps, but honestly it just looks like git to me with their own style   
   of pull requests. Nothing outrageously different here. Do you have any   
   concrete examples of "the situation for devels is inextricable"   
   especially regarding GitHub?   
      
   I think a Mac specific problem in Aranym is the use of SDL. That's a   
   good library but mostly intended for games, and the story of gaming on   
   the Mac has never been great. Contrast with gaming on iOS, and I wonder   
   if the iOS version of SDL is more mature. For sure the Mac version of   
   SDL is (even in SDL3!) using some private AppKit APIs internally which   
   does not seem wise.   
      
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