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   Alan to chrisv   
   Re: How and Why Grifters Milk The System   
   26 Nov 25 15:01:53   
   
   XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy, alt.computer.workshop, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh   
   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2025-11-26 13:19, chrisv wrote:   
   > -hh wrote:   
   >   
   >> chrisv wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> I wasn't talking about the stock market.  I meant the markets for   
   >>> goods and services and labor, all ruled by capitalism, and the   
   >>> prosperity that has resulted.   
   >>   
   >> It has been beneficial (& better than central planning) when its   
   >> practices have not been undermined by monopolistic or monopsonic   
   >> practices (ditto oligopolies, etc).  Its because these modes of   
   >> exploitation function undermining free & open competition, which makes   
   >> it clear that some controls on capitalism are needed to prevent such   
   >> regular and systematic abuses from arising.   
   >>   
   >> And of all people, the regulars of COLA like chrisv who've regularly   
   >> railed against Microsoft should be first to acknowledge this problem of   
   >> capitalism.  /s   
   >   
   > And of all the people, the regulars of COLA, like -highhorse, should   
   > have noticed that I have stated, on multiple occasions, that a free   
   > market needs some regulation.  For things like excessive pollution,   
   > labor abuse, fraud, anti-competitive behavior, etc.   
      
   You don't think a minimum wage that has lost a third of it's buying   
   power isn't "labor abuse"?   
      
   >   
   >> IMO, we're in an era where anti-competitive business actions are   
   >> returning us to the 19th century 'Robber Baron' era, which has now   
   >> advanced beyond the poor to marginalize the middle class too:  we've   
   >> already been hit with high costs in education and healthcare, and the   
   >> next less obvious wave is private equity in what used to be small   
   >> locally owned businesses for things like the trades (particularly HVAC)   
   >> and veterinarian clinics.   
   >>   
   >> And for the question of "what has changed?" the answer is that white   
   >> collar criminals don't go to jail anymore.  Instead, the corporation   
   >> pays fines without admitting guilt, and these expenses are ultimately   
   >> passed along as higher prices on consumers.   
   >   
   > I agree that things have gotten worse and that a correction is needed.   
   > The rising tide of medical costs, property insurance, property taxes,   
   > utility costs, etc is pushing many people to the brink.   
   >   
   > We can start by not giving a free ride to Muslims invading our   
   > country.   
      
   You don't currently give them that.   
      
   > Oh, and cancel stupid shit like manned trips to the Moon and   
   > Mars.  We have greater problems to solve here in Earth!   
   While what Trump's been cancelling is things like FEMA support during   
   natural disasters.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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