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   From: brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com   
      
   On Nov 26, 2025 at 3:59:48 PM MST, "Alan" wrote   
   <10g80p4$rll7$1@dont-email.me>:   
      
   > On 2025-11-26 12:52, chrisv wrote:   
   >> Alan wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> (snipped, unread)   
   >>   
   >> Half the people in the country are running-around with $1000 iPhones,   
   >> but "the market isn't working except for billionaires, according to   
   >> "Alan".   
   >>   
   >   
   > 1.   
   >   
   > No. Half the people in the US are NOT running around (no hyphen required   
   > there, Buckwheat) with $100 iPhones. There are currently about $150   
   > million iPhone users in the US (according to one source), but that   
   > doesn't mean all of them cost each user $1,000.   
      
   Less than 10% of the US population has a phone worth $1000 or more.   
      
   https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/12/fewer-than-10-of-america   
   s-are-buying-1000-smartphones-report-says   
   >   
   > Even today, the least expensive iPhone is a LOT cheaper than $1,000; 40%   
   > cheaper to be exact.   
   >   
   > And most of those 150 million users aren't using a brand-new (there is   
   > where a hyphen is needed, Cochise) iPhone. In fact, as of October 2025,   
   > only about 29% of iPhones in use are iPhone models that are currently   
   > for sale. That means more than 2/3 of those using iPhone are using older   
   > models and many of those will have been bought second-hand.   
      
   I got a newer one (16) but not the higher end versions. But my old one went to   
   someone else and that persons went to someone else. We as a group keep phones   
   for 8 years or so. During that time we generally do get a new battery (and in   
   one case a new screen -- which really meant a new phone from Apple).   
      
   > 2.   
   >   
   > Furthermore, so what?   
   >   
   > You think this is an important metric?   
   >   
   > How about the metric of average wage growth compared to productivity?   
      
   EXACTLY!   
   >   
   > There are two figures that used to track each other very closely, but   
   > now no longer do.   
   >   
   > In short, the fruits of all that increased productivity are going   
   > somewhere and it's NOT to the average person.   
   >   
   > How about a minimum wage that hasn't increased since 2009, while every   
   > other cost for the people earning that wage have increased by more than 50%.   
      
   How about not blaming the poor and middle class for what the ultra-rich   
   control. Why is this such a hard concept?   
      
      
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