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   Brock McNuggets to Hyman Isadore Goldberg   
   Re: How and Why Grifters Milk The System   
   27 Nov 25 00:54:34   
   
   XPost: alt.computer.workshop, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, comp.os.linux.advocacy   
   From: brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com   
      
   On Nov 26, 2025 at 5:51:17 PM MST, "Hyman Isadore Goldberg" wrote   
   :   
      
   > Brock McNuggets  wrote in   
   > news:69278d19$0$24$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:   
   >   
   >> On Nov 26, 2025 at 4:01:53 PM MST, "Alan" wrote   
   >> <10g80t1$rll7$2@dont-email.me>:   
   >>   
   >>> On 2025-11-26 13:19, chrisv wrote:   
   >>>> -hh wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> chrisv wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I wasn't talking about the stock market.  I meant the markets for   
   >>>>>> goods and services and labor, all ruled by capitalism, and the   
   >>>>>> prosperity that has resulted.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> It has been beneficial (& better than central planning) when its   
   >>>>> practices have not been undermined by monopolistic or monopsonic   
   >>>>> practices (ditto oligopolies, etc).  Its because these modes of   
   >>>>> exploitation function undermining free & open competition, which   
   >>>>> makes it clear that some controls on capitalism are needed to   
   >>>>> prevent such regular and systematic abuses from arising.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> And of all people, the regulars of COLA like chrisv who've   
   >>>>> regularly railed against Microsoft should be first to acknowledge   
   >>>>> this problem of capitalism.  /s   
   >>>>   
   >>>> And of all the people, the regulars of COLA, like -highhorse, should   
   >>>> have noticed that I have stated, on multiple occasions, that a free   
   >>>> market needs some regulation.  For things like excessive pollution,   
   >>>> labor abuse, fraud, anti-competitive behavior, etc.   
   >>>   
   >>> You don't think a minimum wage that has lost a third of it's buying   
   >>> power isn't "labor abuse"?   
   >>   
   >> Even as the workers have been able to produce more.   
   >   
   > For someone who is house bound and doesn't have a legitimate,   
   > tax paying form of employment, you sure assume a lot.   
   >   
   >   
   >> I want to see a stronger tie between productivity and financial gain.   
   >   
   > So do I.   
   > I'm tired of paying for lazy leeches like you living on the dole.   
   > How about getting your lazy ass up at 6 AM 5 days a week and commuting to   
   > a job where you contribute to society instead of being a drain on it.   
   >   
   >   
   >> Does not mean a 1:1 tie -- and for folks who are disabled or elderly   
   >> or for children of course that does not apply.   
   >   
   > It also doesn't apply to scammers bilking the government like you are.   
   >   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> IMO, we're in an era where anti-competitive business actions are   
   >>>>> returning us to the 19th century 'Robber Baron' era, which has now   
   >>>>> advanced beyond the poor to marginalize the middle class too:   
   >>>>> we've already been hit with high costs in education and healthcare,   
   >>>>> and the next less obvious wave is private equity in what used to be   
   >>>>> small locally owned businesses for things like the trades   
   >>>>> (particularly HVAC) and veterinarian clinics.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> And for the question of "what has changed?" the answer is that   
   >>>>> white collar criminals don't go to jail anymore.  Instead, the   
   >>>>> corporation pays fines without admitting guilt, and these expenses   
   >>>>> are ultimately passed along as higher prices on consumers.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I agree that things have gotten worse and that a correction is   
   >>>> needed. The rising tide of medical costs, property insurance,   
   >>>> property taxes, utility costs, etc is pushing many people to the   
   >>>> brink.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> We can start by not giving a free ride to Muslims invading our   
   >>>> country.   
   >>>   
   >>> You don't currently give them that.   
   >>   
   >> It is a bigoted and insane claim.   
   >   
   > It's the truth and it's not bigoted at all.   
      
   Blaming all Muslims for the act of some is like blaming all Christians for the   
   fascism of Trump. Yeah, too many DO back it and support it, but many do not.   
      
   --   
   It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with   
   you.   
      
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