XPost: alt.computer.workshop, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, comp.os.linux.advocacy
From: MeanDog@stonewall.Dash
On Fri, 28 Nov 2025 14:32:37 +0000, Mitchell Holman
wrote:
>Collectivists_Always_Fail wrote in
>news:s5miik12gsnnv9klt2133o9dh64vmmkk4s@4ax.com:
>
>> On Fri, 28 Nov 2025 00:07:39 -0800, Alan wrote:
>>
>>>On 2025-11-27 23:58, Collectivists_Always_Fail wrote:
>>>> On 28 Nov 2025 04:15:32 GMT, Brock McNuggets
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 27, 2025 at 6:49:33?PM MST, "chrisv" wrote
>>>>> :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You think this is an important metric?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was just an example. I know you're an Apple fanboi, but get
>>>>>> over it. Even many "poor" people in this country live easy lives
>>>>>> and has luxuries that they dont need. Anyone who is willing to
>>>>>> get off their asses and works has the ability to live a decent
>>>>>> life. Only an unreasonable dipshit denies it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your “example” wasn’t really an example so much as a broad swipe at
>>>>> anyone you’ve decided is lazy, which isn’t an argument. And tossing
>>>>> in “Apple fanboi” doesn’t make the point any stronger.
>>>>>
>>>>> The idea that “anyone who works can live a decent life” just
>>>>> doesn’t match current economic data. Wages at the bottom haven’t
>>>>> kept pace with housing, medical costs, childcare, or transportation
>>>>> for decades. Plenty of people work full time and still struggle.
>>>>> Pointing that out isn’t “unreasonable” — it’s basic reality.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want to talk policy or economics, great. But pretending that
>>>>> structural issues don’t exist, and that anyone struggling is just
>>>>> lazy, doesn’t get us any closer to an honest discussion.
>>>>
>>>> On the one hand, lefties argue that "po fokes" just don't have
>>>> opportunity to get ahead. On the other hand they argue that many
>>>> illegal immigrants who arrived here with nothing but the clothes on
>>>> their backs and are now paying taxes and contributing the economy.
>>>> __
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> People who engage in activities they call "civil disobedience
>>>> are doing the exact opposite of disobedience. They are trying
>>>> to make other people obey their demands.
>>>
>>>Straw...
>>>
>>>...man.
>>
>> No, leftist hypocracy.
>>
>> Over the years, many immigrants, legal and illegal arrived in the USA
>> without a cent and with a non-compliant language. Much of that
>> happened back when there was no minimum wage nor government welfare
>> programs. Many of them suffered from hostility and discrimination, but
>> many of their prodegy are now living in nice three bedroom homes with
>> a nicely filled two car garage.
>>
>> The opportunity for success in the USA is so great that people have
>> been flocking to our borders to where we finally had to put a stop to
>> it and send many of them back.
>>
>> ...and yet the leftist loony-toons are out in the streets singing and
>> dancing like children's cartoon characters about how awful the USA
>> is....
>
>
>Including the president who himself wants
>to leave America.
>
>
>"I could have been relaxing at Mar-a-Lago
>or in the south of France, which I would
>prefer to being in this country frankly."
>Donald Trump, Aug 8 2023
>https://tinyurl.com/mw7p5bj7
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> People who engage in activities they call "civil disobedience
>> are doing the exact opposite of disobedience. They are trying
>> to make other people obey their demands.
>>
>
>
>Remember the Tea Party people ranting
>against civil disobedience and political
>vandalism? That was a hoot.
>
>
Once again, Hollowhead changes the subject because he has no reply to
what was posted.
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People who engage in activities they call "civil disobedience
are doing the exact opposite of disobedience. They are trying
to make other people obey their demands.
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