XPost: alt.computer.workshop, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, comp.os.linux.advocacy   
   From: pothead@snakebite.com   
      
   On 2025-11-28, Collectivists_Always_Fail wrote:   
   > On Fri, 28 Nov 2025 00:07:39 -0800, Alan wrote:   
   >   
   >>On 2025-11-27 23:58, Collectivists_Always_Fail wrote:   
   >>> On 28 Nov 2025 04:15:32 GMT, Brock McNuggets   
   >>> wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On Nov 27, 2025 at 6:49:33?PM MST, "chrisv" wrote   
   >>>> :   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Alan wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> You think this is an important metric?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> It was just an example. I know you're an Apple fanboi, but get over   
   >>>>> it. Even many "poor" people in this country live easy lives and has   
   >>>>> luxuries that they dont need. Anyone who is willing to get off their   
   >>>>> asses and works has the ability to live a decent life. Only an   
   >>>>> unreasonable dipshit denies it.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Your example wasnt really an example so much as a broad swipe at   
   anyone   
   >>>> youve decided is lazy, which isnt an argument. And tossing in Apple   
   fanboi   
   >>>> doesnt make the point any stronger.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The idea that anyone who works can live a decent life just doesnt   
   match   
   >>>> current economic data. Wages at the bottom havent kept pace with   
   housing,   
   >>>> medical costs, childcare, or transportation for decades. Plenty of people   
   work   
   >>>> full time and still struggle. Pointing that out isnt unreasonable   
    its   
   >>>> basic reality.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> If you want to talk policy or economics, great. But pretending that   
   structural   
   >>>> issues dont exist, and that anyone struggling is just lazy, doesnt   
   get us   
   >>>> any closer to an honest discussion.   
   >>>   
   >>> On the one hand, lefties argue that "po fokes" just don't have   
   >>> opportunity to get ahead. On the other hand they argue that many   
   >>> illegal immigrants who arrived here with nothing but the clothes on   
   >>> their backs and are now paying taxes and contributing the economy.   
   >>> __   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> People who engage in activities they call "civil disobedience   
   >>> are doing the exact opposite of disobedience. They are trying   
   >>> to make other people obey their demands.   
   >>   
   >>Straw...   
   >>   
   >>...man.   
   >   
   > No, leftist hypocrisy.   
      
   That's exactly what it is.   
      
      
   > Over the years, many immigrants, legal and illegal arrived in the USA   
   > without a cent and with a non-compliant language. Much of that   
   > happened back when there was no minimum wage nor government welfare   
   > programs. Many of them suffered from hostility and discrimination, but   
   > many of their prodegy are now living in nice three bedroom homes with   
   > a nicely filled two car garage.   
      
   My grandparents on both sides of the family did just that.   
   My grandmother came over on the boat carrying my newborn mother.   
   Her husband, my grandfather, died in an accident so my grandma was on her own   
   and since America was the place of opportunity, she immigrated, LEGALLY.   
      
      
   > The opportunity for success in the USA is so great that people have   
   > been flocking to our borders to where we finally had to put a stop to   
   > it and send many of them back.   
      
   True.   
   And unlike the past where immigrants on their way to Ellis Island would cry   
   when they saw The Statue Of Liberty, these days far too many come here and   
   trash the country.   
   Rep Llhan Omar is a high profile example.   
      
   Total hypocrites.   
      
      
   > ...and yet the leftist loony-toons are out in the streets singing and   
   > dancing like children's cartoon characters about how awful the USA   
   > is....   
      
   Many don't even know what they are protesting and when asked by the media   
   they are clueless.   
   I've watched many a video where college students are supporting Palestine by   
   chanting "from the river to the sea", yet when asked to name the river and sea,   
   they cannot.   
      
   It's sheer lunacy.   
      
      
      
      
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   >   
   >   
   > People who engage in activities they call "civil disobedience   
   > are doing the exact opposite of disobedience. They are trying   
   > to make other people obey their demands.   
      
      
   --   
   pothead   
   Give a Democrat a fish and he'll eat all day.   
   Teach a Democrat to fish and......   
   He'll steal your rod   
   Take your wallet   
   Assault the fish &   
   Blame Trump.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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