XPost: alt.computer.workshop, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, comp.os.linux.advocacy   
   From: MeanDog@stonewall.Dash   
      
   On Fri, 28 Nov 2025 18:40:55 +0000, Mitchell Holman    
   wrote:   
      
   >Collectivists_Always_Fail  wrote in   
   >news:ejejik9liomojm3h8kssqeiutgftrn3emt@4ax.com:   
   >   
   >> On Fri, 28 Nov 2025 14:32:37 +0000, Mitchell Holman    
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>Collectivists_Always_Fail  wrote in   
   >>>news:s5miik12gsnnv9klt2133o9dh64vmmkk4s@4ax.com:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On Fri, 28 Nov 2025 00:07:39 -0800, Alan  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>On 2025-11-27 23:58, Collectivists_Always_Fail wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 28 Nov 2025 04:15:32 GMT, Brock McNuggets   
   >>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On Nov 27, 2025 at 6:49:33?PM MST, "chrisv" wrote   
   >>>>>>> :   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Alan wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> You think this is an important metric?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> It was just an example.  I know you're an Apple fanboi, but get   
   >>>>>>>> over it.  Even many "poor" people in this country live easy lives   
   >>>>>>>> and has luxuries that they dont need.  Anyone who is willing to   
   >>>>>>>> get off their asses and works has the ability to live a decent   
   >>>>>>>> life.  Only an unreasonable dipshit denies it.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Your “example” wasn’t really an example so much as a broad swipe   
   >at   
   >>>>>>> anyone you’ve decided is lazy, which isn’t an argument. And   
   >tossing   
   >>>>>>> in “Apple fanboi” doesn’t make the point any stronger.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> The idea that “anyone who works can live a decent life” just   
   >>>>>>> doesn’t match current economic data. Wages at the bottom haven’t   
   >>>>>>> kept pace with housing, medical costs, childcare, or   
   >transportation   
   >>>>>>> for decades. Plenty of people work full time and still struggle.   
   >>>>>>> Pointing that out isn’t “unreasonable” — it’s basic reality.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> If you want to talk policy or economics, great. But pretending   
   >that   
   >>>>>>> structural issues don’t exist, and that anyone struggling is just   
   >>>>>>> lazy, doesn’t get us any closer to an honest discussion.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> On the one hand, lefties argue that "po fokes" just don't have   
   >>>>>> opportunity to get ahead. On the other hand they argue that many   
   >>>>>> illegal immigrants who arrived here with nothing but the clothes on   
   >>>>>> their backs and are now paying taxes and contributing the economy.   
   >>>>>> __   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> People who engage in activities they call "civil disobedience   
   >>>>>> are doing the exact opposite of disobedience. They are trying   
   >>>>>> to make other people obey their demands.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>Straw...   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>...man.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> No, leftist hypocracy.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Over the years, many immigrants, legal and illegal arrived in the USA   
   >>>> without a cent and with a non-compliant language. Much of that   
   >>>> happened back when there was no minimum wage nor government welfare   
   >>>> programs. Many of them suffered from hostility and discrimination,   
   >but   
   >>>> many of their prodegy are now living in nice three bedroom homes with   
   >>>> a nicely filled two car garage.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The opportunity for success in the USA is so great that people have   
   >>>> been flocking to our borders to where we finally had to put a stop to   
   >>>> it and send many of them back.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> ...and yet the leftist loony-toons are out in the streets singing and   
   >>>> dancing like children's cartoon characters about how awful the USA   
   >>>> is....   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>Including the president who himself wants   
   >>>to leave America.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>"I could have been relaxing at Mar-a-Lago   
   >>>or in the south of France, which I would   
   >>>prefer to being in this country frankly."   
   >>>Donald Trump, Aug 8 2023   
   >>>https://tinyurl.com/mw7p5bj7   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> People who engage in activities they call "civil disobedience   
   >>>> are doing the exact opposite of disobedience. They are trying   
   >>>> to make other people obey their demands.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>Remember the Tea Party people ranting   
   >>>against civil disobedience and political   
   >>>vandalism? That was a hoot.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Once again, Hollowhead changes the subject because he has no reply to   
   >> what was posted.   
   >   
   >   
   >    Says the champion of "well, what about Biden" posts.....   
   >   
   >   
      
      
   I understand why you don't want to talk about Gibberish Joe,   
   Hollowhead.   
   __   
      
      
   People who engage in activities they call "civil disobedience   
   are doing the exact opposite of disobedience. They are trying   
   to make other people obey their demands.   
      
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