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   Tom Elam to -hh   
   Re: OT: to Hugh H   
   28 Nov 25 17:55:03   
   
   From: thomas.e.elam@gmail.com   
      
   On 11/27/2025 10:27 AM, -hh wrote:   
   > On 11/26/25 13:35, Alan wrote:   
   >> On 2025-11-26 09:39, Tom Elam wrote:   
   >>> On 11/26/2025 11:09 AM, -hh wrote:   
   >>>> On 11/25/25 21:12, Alan wrote:   
   >>>>> On 2025-11-25 17:45, Tom Elam wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 11/25/2025 3:09 PM, -hh wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 11/25/25 14:52, Tom Elam wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 11/17/2025 1:44 PM, -hh wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> Yeah, so?  Recall that I eyeballed it & noted the nonlinearity   
   >>>>>>>>> from the very start without even needing to do any   
   >>>>>>>>> math...because I understood the basic data apparently much   
   >>>>>>>>> better than you did (and still do).   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> You have not responded for several days. I'm thinking that   
   >>>>>>>> calling a simple scatter plot a statistical "work product" has   
   >>>>>>>> to be embarrassing.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Nope.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> You've claimed to have offered just one hour's worth of   
   >>>>>>> consulting time in total.  What you would get for that is a   
   >>>>>>> summary overview of what you've missed, as validated by your   
   >>>>>>> 'full' spreadsheet.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Of course you'll not like that answer because you want all of the   
   >>>>>>> work to be also done for that one hour, which is unrealistic &   
   >>>>>>> disingenuous: the sign of a bad customer who's determined to   
   >>>>>>> never be satisfied. Thus, you're not worth my time.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>  > [snipped, without reading]   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> -hh   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> OK, I'll take you up on the one hour. $150 for finding out what I   
   >>>>>> missed. I'm always willing to learn.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Of course, the advice must be useful as measured by a material   
   >>>>>> model improvement, not duplicate what I have already done, and not   
   >>>>>> call for additional data that is not available or does not even   
   >>>>>> exist. If your advice calls for a statistical model beyond Excel's   
   >>>>>> capability I can rent something else.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> All I need from you if the work is useful is sufficient info for a   
   >>>>>> PayPal, Venmo or Zelle transfer.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> So you'll get to decide afterward if the "work is useful"...   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> ...and then you'll pay?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> LOL!   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> And already anticipated:   
   >>>>   
   >>>> "Of course you'll not like that answer... the sign of a bad customer   
   >>>> who's determined to never be satisfied. Thus, you're not worth my   
   >>>> time."   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Tommy has now confirmed that he 100% intends to welsh.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> -hh   
   >>>   
   >>> I will pay if you give me useful information.   
   >>   
   >> "No true Scotsman".   
   >   
   > As I've said, Tommy's intent is to welsh.   
   >   
   >   
   >>> You have had weeks to think about this. You have stated several times   
   >>> that you can help improve the model. It should take no more than 10   
   >>> minutes to type in your ideas and hit the send arrow. That's actually   
   >>> $900 an hour.   
   >>>   
   >>> I do not think you have anything useful. I think you want $150 up   
   >>> front for nothing. After all, you are the same person who told me I   
   >>> would need to travel to England to see a friend of yours who could   
   >>> validate my pilot logbook.   
   >>   
   >> Quote please, Liarboy.   
   >   
   > He's whining again about an offer I made to see about asking an old   
   > friend of mine to review his flight logs.  At the time, that friend was   
   > a senior FAA official working & living in UK...   
      
   It was more than that. You suggested that since I was rich I could just   
   pop over with my logbook to show your "friend". You later backtracked   
   and said that had I actually planned to go you would tell me there was   
   no such friend there at that time.   
      
   Liar.   
      
   >   
   > ...and why UK you may ask?  Because non-US airlines with trans-Atlantic   
   > flights to the US have to meet FAA regulations to land here, so there's   
   > been at times FAA staff located there (D'uh!).   
   >   
   >   
   >>> You are the same person who called a simple data plot a statistical   
   >>> model.   
   >>   
   >> Quote please, Liarboy.   
   >   
   > Doesn't matter either:  Tommy represented that plot as his work product.   
   >   He later backtracked, claiming that there was more.  There was, but   
   > that revision doesn't change his first claim from being a   
   > misrepresentation.   
   >   
   >   
   > -hh   
      
   No Hugh, that is not what happened. I showed you a simple plot to   
   demonstrate the non-linear data. You interpreted that to be a final   
   piece of work. Your bad. A few days later, seeing your error, I posted   
   the actual model. You implied that I created that model to show you. A   
   version was created in 2015. With a PhD minor in econometrics I am well   
   aware that much more work was needed to if I wanted to actually model   
   that graphed relationship. Come tho think of it, I have actually known   
   that since I took an undergraduate statistics class to go with my math   
   minor.   
      
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