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   From: MeanDog@stonewall.Dash   
      
   On Sat, 29 Nov 2025 02:31:55 +0000, Mitchell Holman    
   wrote:   
      
   >Collectivists_Always_Fail  wrote in   
   >news:kh1kik5nfva9cusaeh9p08hjjj5gjmr8to@4ax.com:   
   >   
   >> On Fri, 28 Nov 2025 18:40:55 +0000, Mitchell Holman    
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>Collectivists_Always_Fail  wrote in   
   >>>news:ejejik9liomojm3h8kssqeiutgftrn3emt@4ax.com:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On Fri, 28 Nov 2025 14:32:37 +0000, Mitchell Holman    
   >>>> wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>Collectivists_Always_Fail  wrote in   
   >>>>>news:s5miik12gsnnv9klt2133o9dh64vmmkk4s@4ax.com:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On Fri, 28 Nov 2025 00:07:39 -0800, Alan  wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>On 2025-11-27 23:58, Collectivists_Always_Fail wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 28 Nov 2025 04:15:32 GMT, Brock McNuggets   
   >>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> On Nov 27, 2025 at 6:49:33?PM MST, "chrisv" wrote   
   >>>>>>>>> :   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Alan wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> You think this is an important metric?   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> It was just an example.  I know you're an Apple fanboi, but get   
   >>>>>>>>>> over it.  Even many "poor" people in this country live easy   
   >lives   
   >>>>>>>>>> and has luxuries that they dont need.  Anyone who is willing to   
   >>>>>>>>>> get off their asses and works has the ability to live a decent   
   >>>>>>>>>> life.  Only an unreasonable dipshit denies it.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Your “example” wasn’t really an example so much as a broad swipe   
   >>>at   
   >>>>>>>>> anyone you’ve decided is lazy, which isn’t an argument. And   
   >>>tossing   
   >>>>>>>>> in “Apple fanboi” doesn’t make the point any stronger.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> The idea that “anyone who works can live a decent life” just   
   >>>>>>>>> doesn’t match current economic data. Wages at the bottom haven’t   
   >>>>>>>>> kept pace with housing, medical costs, childcare, or   
   >>>transportation   
   >>>>>>>>> for decades. Plenty of people work full time and still struggle.   
   >>>>>>>>> Pointing that out isn’t “unreasonable” — it’s basic reality.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> If you want to talk policy or economics, great. But pretending   
   >>>that   
   >>>>>>>>> structural issues don’t exist, and that anyone struggling is   
   >just   
   >>>>>>>>> lazy, doesn’t get us any closer to an honest discussion.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On the one hand, lefties argue that "po fokes" just don't have   
   >>>>>>>> opportunity to get ahead. On the other hand they argue that many   
   >>>>>>>> illegal immigrants who arrived here with nothing but the clothes   
   >on   
   >>>>>>>> their backs and are now paying taxes and contributing the   
   >economy.   
   >>>>>>>> __   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> People who engage in activities they call "civil disobedience   
   >>>>>>>> are doing the exact opposite of disobedience. They are trying   
   >>>>>>>> to make other people obey their demands.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>Straw...   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>...man.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> No, leftist hypocracy.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Over the years, many immigrants, legal and illegal arrived in the   
   >USA   
   >>>>>> without a cent and with a non-compliant language. Much of that   
   >>>>>> happened back when there was no minimum wage nor government welfare   
   >>>>>> programs. Many of them suffered from hostility and discrimination,   
   >>>but   
   >>>>>> many of their prodegy are now living in nice three bedroom homes   
   >with   
   >>>>>> a nicely filled two car garage.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> The opportunity for success in the USA is so great that people have   
   >>>>>> been flocking to our borders to where we finally had to put a stop   
   >to   
   >>>>>> it and send many of them back.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> ...and yet the leftist loony-toons are out in the streets singing   
   >and   
   >>>>>> dancing like children's cartoon characters about how awful the USA   
   >>>>>> is....   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>Including the president who himself wants   
   >>>>>to leave America.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>"I could have been relaxing at Mar-a-Lago   
   >>>>>or in the south of France, which I would   
   >>>>>prefer to being in this country frankly."   
   >>>>>Donald Trump, Aug 8 2023   
   >>>>>https://tinyurl.com/mw7p5bj7   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> People who engage in activities they call "civil disobedience   
   >>>>>> are doing the exact opposite of disobedience. They are trying   
   >>>>>> to make other people obey their demands.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>Remember the Tea Party people ranting   
   >>>>>against civil disobedience and political   
   >>>>>vandalism? That was a hoot.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Once again, Hollowhead changes the subject because he has no reply to   
   >>>> what was posted.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>    Says the champion of "well, what about Biden" posts.....   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> I understand why you don't want to talk about Gibberish Joe,   
   >> Hollowhead.   
   >   
   >   
   >    If you are so fixated on Biden why   
   >don't you start your own Biden newsgroup?   
   >   
      
   There'd be no leftist morons like you to laugh amd make fun of.   
   __   
      
      
   People who engage in activities they call "civil disobedience   
   are doing the exact opposite of disobedience. They are trying   
   to make other people obey their demands.   
      
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