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   From: brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com   
      
   On Nov 29, 2025 at 2:39:51 AM MST, "Collectivists_Always_Fail" wrote   
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   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> That is very standard conservative thinking -- I and people who I   
   identify   
   >>>>>> with are OK, so who cares about the rest. Liberals tend to want equal   
   rights   
   >>>>>> for everyone, where conservatives promote special entitlements for   
   themselves.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Nobody has infringed on your rights,   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I said nothing of MY rights.   
   >>>   
   >>> You're not included when you say "everyone?"   
   >>   
   >> I want everyone to get equal rights. That's it. You. Me. Blacks. Whites.   
   >> Asians. Jews. Atheists. Gays. Heterosexuals. Cis. Trans. EVERYONE.   
   >   
   > That's how it is for citizens in these fine United States.   
      
   Please show support for this.   
   >   
   >> But I am liberal. I want what is best for everyone. You are conservative.   
   You   
   >> want special entitlements for yourself, those you identify with, and the   
   very   
   >> rich. It is pretty much the defining characteristics.   
   >   
   > That's nonsense. If you had any evidence that I get or that I want any   
   > entitlements that are not available to you and everybody else you'd   
   > have shown it.   
      
   YOU show it and I respond to it.   
      
   Keep in mind the main differences between liberal and conservative world   
   views:   
      
   * Liberals: support equal rights and environmental protection, with a focus on   
   investing in the future and building a stronger tie between productivity and   
   financial reward.   
      
   Liberals want evidence-based regulation and oversight to help ensure clean air   
   and water, safe food, and human rights. This includes following the scientific   
   evidence about climate change and food safety, and things like setting levels   
   of lead and other harmful substances allowed, and even to wanting to do   
   research to reduce the harm of tools such as cars and guns and swimming pools.   
   This is a form of control, and conservatives are right to note that. And they   
   are right to note that sometimes these measures are taken too far.   
      
   * Conservative: support special entitlements for whites, Christians, males,   
   heterosexuals, those in lower populated states, and the wealthy, with a focus   
   on redistributing wealth to the very richest in the nation with the idea that   
   this will somehow help others.   
      
   Conservatives want regulation and oversight based on their own feelings and   
   what they believe has historically existed (which is often incorrect), or even   
   just based on their own religion. This includes controlling which consenting   
   adults can marry each other, what a woman can do with her own body, and even   
   insisting the government gets to define YOUR gender. They also work to create   
   regulations on voting to limit who can vote, for if the people truly get a   
   voice they know their ideas are less likely to be accepted. Liberals are right   
   to call conservatives out on this also being a form of control and, I think, a   
   less defensible one.   
      
   --   
   It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with   
   you.   
      
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