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   From: brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com   
      
   On Nov 30, 2025 at 6:26:37 PM MST, "Johnson" wrote   
   :   
      
   > In article <692b88cc$1$24$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,   
   > brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...   
   >>   
   >> On Nov 29, 2025 at 2:43:53 PM MST, "pothead" wrote   
   >> <10gfpeo$3obk1$1@pothead.dont-email.me>:   
   >>   
   >>> On 2025-11-29, Governor Swill  wrote:   
   >>>> On Tue, 25 Nov 2025 12:03:17 -0800, Alan  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 2025-11-22 17:47, pothead wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 2025-11-23, chrisv  wrote:   
   >>>>>>> Alan wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Wave away the fact that people can't live on the minimum   
   >>>>>>>>>> wage?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> They probably shoudn't even try....   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> So just starve, then?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> So just apply for SNAP, or take advantage of "food shelves", you   
   >>>>>>> unreasonable dipshit.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>> If people are truly entitled to government assistance programs, they   
   >>>>>> should be able to use them. If they are not, or gaming the system,   
   >>>>>> then they should not be entitled.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> And I don't see anyone arguing against that.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> +1   
   >>>   
   >>> Yet the left argues tooth and nail about how we need to support   
   >>> these migrants with taxpayer dollars. And the overall cost is huge.   
   >>   
   >> Overall immigrants help the economy. Part of the reason our economy is   
   >> struggling is Trump's idiotic policies in that area.   
   >   
   > Overall per history that is true.   
      
   And it is currently true.   
      
   > However immigration in   
   > the last 20 years or more is NOT comparable to your   
   > relatives coming over on a boat and building America's   
   > roads, bridges,tunnels and infrastructure, the vast   
   > majority of whom immigrated legally.   
      
   They did not wait through a decade or more of red tape. And it is not relevant   
   to the point. The people coming here now, even illegally, benefit our economy.   
      
   They pay close to $100 *BILLION* in taxes. That is close to $9000 per   
   immigrant.   
   https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/   
      
   Even when looking at health care, they provide close to $60 B more than is   
   spent on them, and they sustain industries where they would struggle with only   
   citizens and people here legally:   
   https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2798221   
      
   Their consumption fuels demand, helping the economy:   
   https://forumtogether.org/article/immigrants-as-economic-contrib   
   tors-immigrant-tax-contributions-and-spending-power/   
      
   They are projected to add TRILLIONS to the economy, boost GDP, and reduce   
   federal deficits:   
   https://cmsny.org/importance-of-immigrant-labor-to-us-economy/   
      
   The idea only those not doing things as they should are being attacked is   
   insane. They are being targeted at courts where they ARE working to do things   
   the right way. The idea they are not working does not hold up -- they are   
   being targeted at their job sites.   
      
   It is bigotry. Plain and simple.   
      
   Does not mean we should not improve the system nor handle the rare ones which   
   are dangerous (their violent crime rates are lower than that of citizens), but   
   the current bigoted white supremacist crap is horrible.   
      
      
      
      
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