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   From: MeanDog@stonewall.Dash   
      
   On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 15:05:13 -0800, Alan  wrote:   
      
   >On 2025-12-02 14:57, Collectivists_Always_Fail wrote:   
   >> On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 14:39:18 -0800, Alan  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 2025-12-02 12:53, Collectivists_Always_Fail wrote:   
   >>>> On 02 Dec 2025 20:31:11 GMT, Brock McNuggets   
   >>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Collectivism doesn't mean "giving up your rights to a leader"   
   >>>>   
   >>>> That's exactly what happens with collectivism. Collectivism requires   
   >>>> compliance.   
   >>> Ummmmm...nope.   
   >>   
   >> "Collectivism, any of several types of social organization in which   
   >> the individual is seen as being subordinate to a social collectivity   
   >>   such as a state, a nation, a race, or a social class. Collectivism   
   >> may be contrasted with individualism (q.v.), in which the rights and   
   >>   interests of the individual are emphasized.   
   >> https://www.britannica.com/topic/collectivism   
   >>   
   >> See where it says "subordinate," dimwit?   
   >Do you see the words "social collectivity" and "state", "nation",   
   >"race", and "social class"?   
   >   
   >You do? Good!   
   >   
   >Now... ...do you see the word...   
   >   
   >..."leader"?   
   >   
      
    Do you really believe that those entities don't have any   
   leaders?   
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   People who engage in activities they call "civil disobedience   
   are doing the exact opposite of disobedience. They are trying   
   to make other people obey their demands.   
      
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