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   From: brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com   
      
   On Dec 2, 2025 at 4:13:05 PM MST, "Collectivists_Always_Fail" wrote   
   :   
      
   > On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 15:05:13 -0800, Alan  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 2025-12-02 14:57, Collectivists_Always_Fail wrote:   
   >>> On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 14:39:18 -0800, Alan  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 2025-12-02 12:53, Collectivists_Always_Fail wrote:   
   >>>>> On 02 Dec 2025 20:31:11 GMT, Brock McNuggets   
   >>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> Collectivism doesn't mean "giving up your rights to a leader"   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> That's exactly what happens with collectivism. Collectivism requires   
   >>>>> compliance.   
   >>>> Ummmmm...nope.   
   >>>   
   >>> "Collectivism, any of several types of social organization in which   
   >>> the individual is seen as being subordinate to a social collectivity   
   >>>   such as a state, a nation, a race, or a social class. Collectivism   
   >>> may be contrasted with individualism (q.v.), in which the rights and   
   >>>   interests of the individual are emphasized.   
   >>> https://www.britannica.com/topic/collectivism   
   >>>   
   >>> See where it says "subordinate," dimwit?   
   >> Do you see the words "social collectivity" and "state", "nation",   
   >> "race", and "social class"?   
   >>   
   >> You do? Good!   
   >>   
   >> Now... ...do you see the word...   
   >>   
   >> ..."leader"?   
   >>   
   >   
   >  Do you really believe that those entities don't have any   
   > leaders?   
   >   
   What group does not?   
      
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