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   -hh to Tom Elam   
   Re: OT: to Hugh H (1/2)   
   08 Dec 25 16:37:50   
   
   From: recscuba_google@huntzinger.com   
      
   On 12/8/25 15:12, Tom Elam wrote:   
   > On 12/7/2025 5:11 PM, -hh wrote:   
   >> On 12/7/25 12:06, Tom Elam wrote:   
   >>> On 12/6/2025 9:11 PM, -hh wrote:   
   >>>> On 12/6/25 09:47, Tom Elam wrote:   
   >>>>> On 12/5/2025 1:36 PM, -hh wrote:   
   >>>>>>> LOL, it was just a partial picture. Just like yours.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Except that it clearly says "all accounts" with a total of $2.51M.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Here again you jump to a bogus conclusion.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Nope, for I'm not who posted a pic which said "All accounts".   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> That was all accounts at that one company. There are 4 of them. We   
   >>>>> have investments with other companies (and cash not shown) too.   
   >>>>> Imagine that! Apparently you cannot.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> That claim doesn't square with what your own image displayed,   
   >>>> because your image shows five accounts, not four.  There's the four   
   >>>> obvious ones, with claimed balances of $5.5K, $10.8K, $39K and   
   >>>> $0.4K, plus there's also "Individual Brokerage-2955" wtih $751.6K.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Plus as I've said before, there's ~$1.7M unaccounted for because the   
   >>>> above five accounts sum to $807.4K, but the "All Accounts" line   
   >>>> claims four accounts for $2.5M:  $1,704,519 is not accounted for/   
   >>>> undocumented.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Hmmm...maybe there was a Photoshop job done here, eh?  /s   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> To make you happy here are all of our investment accounts:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UevoIJ1SUe26Zq0XadMqEpgldjtJEq3B/   
   >>>>> view? usp=sharing   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> As of today, formatted just for you.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Funny how none of the balances are even close to what you posted as   
   >>>> your balances on just seven days ago.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Funny how you're guilty of YA "do as I say, not as I do"...   
   >>>> ...because you showed five digits, contrary to your own instructions:   
   >>>>   
   >>>> "So show us your numbers, with some details on where they are, with   
   >>>> 7 digits on the left of the decimal point. I did."   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Plus the second brag attempt is fishy smelling too, as some lines   
   >>>> look like subtotals, possibly as a deception to try to encourage   
   >>>> double- counting.  For example, $14,186.87 is the exact sum of   
   >>>> $7,048.54 + $7,138.33 values listed immediately below it, as is also   
   >>>> $54,223.21 ($26,945.97 + $27,227.24).   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Plus despite being allegedly of the same accounts, the two brags   
   >>>> attempts don't appear to align well:  where is the former's $39.1K   
   >>>> HYSA in the latter?  Did it drop by ~$12K in value in just one week?   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> -hh   
   >>>   
   >>> LOL! You are totally confused. Score!   
   >>   
   >> Tommy confesses that deception was actually his goal.   
   >>   
   >>> You will never see all details, > but look at this again:   
   >>>   
   >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/145PxsEKUioG_HkUEKF8mzkUZQx_wsZqB/   
   >>> view? usp=sharing   
   >>>   
   >>> The first image is a brokerage with 4 accounts. The second is a   
   >>> credit union snapshot with 4 accounts.   
   >>   
   >> Incorrect, for you provided only one image.   
   >>   
   >> That you Photoshopped multiple images together doesn't change that the   
   >> first says that its total is $2.511M   
   >>   
   >> Nor that we can sum the four CU accounts to get $55.8K, so even if   
   >> your latest attempted explanation is accepted that these are in   
   >> addition to the prior, its a "so what?" because adding the CU's $55.8K   
   >> is just a minor +2% change.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>> There are other brokerage and cash accounts.   
   >>   
   >> To which we're expected to believe that while Tommy's trying to make a   
   >> maximal brag about himself that he chose to not include?  Does not fly.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>> Stop trying to put is all together when you do not, and never will   
   >>> see, the total picture.   
   >>   
   >> Yet that didn't stop you from trying to demand the total picture of   
   >> others...hypocrite much?   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>> Yes, the carefully redacted Excel version I downloaded from Quicken   
   >>> has different numbers. That is because it is investments only, not   
   >>> any banking numbers.   
   >>   
   >> Since you've already provided what you claimed were four credit union   
   >> banking accounts, what sense does it make to do that?   
   >>   
   >>> What you are saying is a major change in amounts is actually VERY   
   >>> VERY different accounts, investments not cash, with the names hidden   
   >>> from you. There subtotals in the Excel image.  Of course you are   
   >>> confused. The intent was not to inform.   
   >>   
   >> Of course the intent was not to inform:  it is to try to deceive.   
   >> Notice how Tommy avoided acknowledging that at least two of his   
   >> numbers were subtotals?   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>> The only way this ever go started in the first place was you baiting   
   >>> with claims that I am bragging about my financial status. Honest   
   >>> person that I am I tried to show I'm not lying.   
   >>   
   >> Just merely two deceptive documents (so far) & lying through omission:   
   >>   
   >> "Throwing out misleading and irreverent numbers to impress others.   
   >> Bad, very bad."   
   >>   - Tom Elam, on 12/5/25 10:10   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>> I could care less that you are among the many who have accumulated   
   >>> more in less time that we have.   
   >>   
   >> Gosh, what a quick 180 turn, from just over a week ago, when Tommy was   
   >> claiming the opposite (still!):   
   >>   
   >> Right side of Tommy's piehole, on 11/28/25 16:40:  "But since you seem   
   >> to need $120 SO badly you had to wait for Black Friday..."   
   >>   
   >> Likewise, same arrogant piehole, on 11/28/25 10:58:  "Followup #2 ...   
   >> My take is that in actual reality that $120 seems to be very important   
   >> to YOU. Needing that for groceries or utility bills, are you?"   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>> Your amateurish attempts to reconcile incomplete and seemingly   
   >>> inconsistent data, all of which are accurate by themselves, are   
   >>> hilarious, never ending, and fruitless. I'm going to stop this here.   
   >>> You need to give it up too. You are being made a fool.   
   >>   
   >> Translation:   
   >> Tommy knows that he's been caught (again) with his deception attempt,   
   >> so instead of being honest & accountable, he's going to run away   
   >> (again), in a futile effort to try to save face (again).  Who's the   
   >> fool again?   
   >>   
   >> TL;DR on all of this:  assuming minimal forgeries, Tommy's provided   
   >> about the best evidence seen to date that he's probably accumulated a   
   >> bit over $2.5M after having worked into his mid/upper-70s.  Of course,   
   >> the Stock Market's long Bull run over the past ~decade+ has made some   
   >> pretty big gains on paper for a lot of folks, both smart & dumb alike.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> -hh   
   >>   
   > No again Hugh, That was 2 JPG screenshots on a Word page.   
      
   Which you still deliberately misrepresented.   
      
   > So here is the reality.   
   >   
   > For years I have baited you with partial and confusing information that   
   > you continue to misinterpret in lengthy great detail as not being true.   
      
      
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