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   Marian to Tyrone   
   Re: Why do Apple trolls espouse opinions   
   10 Dec 25 22:35:21   
   
   XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: marianjones@helpfulpeople.com   
      
   Tyrone wrote:   
   > This was a couple years ago. His claim was that Apple "plead guilty" in court   
   > in France to something. I forget what the specific charge was. Nevermind that   
   > COMPANIES don't plead guilty. It would be some person(s) at the company   
   > pleading (or being found) guilty of whatever.   
   >   
   > He of course provided a link to the story. Which OF COURSE he did not read.   
   > The link clearly stated that France OFFERED TO SETTLE out of court. Apple of   
   > course accepted and paid a small fine.  When settling out of court, no one is   
   > EVER found guilty (let alone PLEAD guilty) of anything because there is no   
   > adjudication by the court.   
   >   
   > Needless to say, when the plaintiff (France in this case) offers to settle,   
   it   
   > means they know they have no case and are - in fact - just looking for a pay   
   > day. So AGAIN, this claim was total bullshit.   
      
   The French Batterygate case was criminal, unique in Europe because France   
   has a specific law against planned obsolescence. Apple lost the case, paid   
   25M euros, and was forced to publicly acknowledge it on its French website.   
      
   1. The French consumer group Halte a l'obsolescence programmee(HOP) filed a   
   complaint in 2017, stating Apple's actions amounted to planned obsolescence   
   by Apple clearly deliberately reducing product lifespan to push upgrades.   
      
   2. The DGCCRF launched a criminal probe in 2018 under France's 2015 law   
   banning planned obsolescence.   
      
   3. In February 2020, Apple agreed to pay 25 million euros and publish a   
   notice on its French website for one month acknowledging the fine.   
      
   4. This is and was treated as a criminal case under French law, not just an   
   administrative fine. Planned obsolescence is a criminal offense in France,   
   punishable by fines and even imprisonment for company executives.   
      
   Always remember there is no company more sleazy than Apple proves to be.   
   Apple will fuck the customer up the ass and laugh by only paying the fine.   
      
   Hell, Apple paid half a billion dollars for the same battery-gate issue in   
   the USA and all you Apple trolls scoffed at the fine and yet, you can't   
   find a single US company who has paid a bigger fine than Apple for that   
   same thing.   
   >   
   >>   
   >>> Why do you claim that "Even if only 1 line of code was changed, Apple sends   
   >>> out the ENTIRE iOS as an update"?  Never true.  iOS, being Unix, is not   
   >>> monolithic.   
   >>   
   >> He does not know files can be updated?   
   >   
   > He does not know ANYTHING about iOS/iPadOS. If he had a single iPhone/iPad,   
   he   
   > would know that many .1/.1.1/.2.1/.whatever updates can be 50MB/100MB/500MB.   
   >  Full version upgrades are around 5GB or more. OBVIOUSLY, the entire   
   > iOS/iPadOS is NOT sent for every update.  More total bullshit.   
      
   Heh heh heh... This yet again proves all you Apple trolls have a low IQ.   
   You have absolutely no idea what an RSR is, do you?   
      
   Tell us, Tyrone, what's an RSR?   
      
   Here', I'll help you:   
        
        
      
   Now, Tyrone, tell us what an RSR is, and tell us how it differs from a fix   
   of even a single line of code prior to iOS 16's RSR mechanism being   
   released.   
      
   Tell us Tyrone.   
   Let's see if your IQ is higher than about 50, Tyrone.   
      
   C'mon. Tell us what the RSR is & hgw it's different in iOS below 16.   
      
   >> I went to the store today. Turned around and my router was right there!   
   >> Following me. Reporting what isle I was on to BIG BROTHER!   
   >   
   > LOL, yeah man. Because since Big Brother needs to know where you are at all   
   > times, your router is obviously the best way to do that.   
      
   The fact you can't understand the GPS is tied to the router BSSID is clear.   
   All you Apple trolls defend Apple to the death, no matter what.   
   You use the first excuse that comes to your mind.   
      
   Since your IQ is so low, your excuse is absurd.   
      
   >>> Of course, WE all know the answer.  We are just waiting for you to get a   
   clue.   
   >>   
   >> He won't.   
   >   
   > Obviously. He has been posting total bullshit for about 5 years. The very   
   > definition of Troll.   
      
   For all you Apple trolls, you've been told you're stupid your entire lives.   
   Not one of you was admitted to college for that reason. You lack normal IQ.   
      
   The fact you can't understand anything is proof of what I have learned.   
    Alan Baker (literally owns the IQ of about 40, i.e., a retarded person)   
    Alan Browne (desperately believes everything Apple tells him)   
    Chris (may actually own rudimentary critical-thinking skills)   
    Haemactylus (sometimes he can think, but often he can't)   
    -hh (also shows he owns at least rudimentary cognitive skills)   
    Jeorg Lorenz (feels the need to respond to everything, with nothing)   
    JF Mezei (desperately defends Apple to the death, no matter what)   
    Jolly Roger (he's the most interesting canonical Apple owner of all)   
    Lewis (similar to Jolly Roger but not as stupid as Jolly Roger is)   
    nospam (almost seems he's paid to defend Apple to the death)   
    Tom Elam (thinks he knows something - but turns out he knows nothing)   
    Tyrone (actually knows Windows networking - but nothing about Apple)   
    Your Name (thinks he's a genius for figuring out what is never hidden)   
      
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