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   Alan to Joel W. Crump   
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   11 Dec 25 17:45:09   
   
   XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy   
   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2025-12-11 17:02, Joel W. Crump wrote:   
   > On 12/11/25 7:09 PM, Alan wrote:   
   >   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you even understand that EVERY company charges whatever   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it thinks the traffic will bear?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Why is 256 GB such a prominent option?  Apple is just chintzy.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> So people who need less storage SHOULDN'T be allowed to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> choose it?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Again: you're making a mountain out of a mole hill.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Not remotely.  In 2021, I built my new PC with a 1 TB NVMe   
   >>>>>>>>>>> drive. Apple still wants to sell you 256 GB, today.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> You still have this ridiculous idea that:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> What works for YOU...   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> ...must be what works for EVERYONE.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> You know why I bought a 1 TB NVMe drive?  Because the old   
   >>>>>>>>> computer was upgraded from 1 TB SATA hard drive to SATA SSD.  1   
   >>>>>>>>> TB was the gold standard.  Let's say we could make that 512 GB.   
   >>>>>>>>> Why does it have to be 256, with Apple, *now in 2025*?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Because there are people who really don't need more.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> I have quite a few clients, friends and family who will never   
   >>>>>>>> fill a 256GB drive.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> So that's good enough, for you, that some people can be good with   
   >>>>>>> 256, so Apple's just offering a good choice in that model.   
   >>>>>>> Inclusive to itself that is a good argument but it is lost when   
   >>>>>>> you see what the alternative really is, to not buy from freakin'   
   >>>>>>> Apple, and get the 512 GB or 1 TB, get the 32 GB RAM, get the   
   >>>>>>> price one is entitled to get and not Apple's extortion.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> No one is forcing anyone to buy Apple's products, child.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> They are, though, the cult will accept the extortion.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Once again, you imagine that people who don't agree with you can't   
   >>>> be rational.   
   >>>   
   >>> You have been extorted of your money by Apple by buying a Mac or iPhone.   
   >>   
   >> Nope.   
   >>   
   >> Simply, unequivocally bullshit you're spouting there.   
   >   
   >   
   > If you buy the minimum model, you get a very basic device.  It's still   
   > not cheap.   
      
   Which doesn't make it "extortion", does it?   
      
   >   
   >   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Samsung PCs are one thing.  But even Apple's Mac mini has   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> the pricey upgrades of specs.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> You're the one who touted how "grateful" you were to be a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Samsung user.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> And now you want to run away!   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't buy a Samsung laptop.  But I would a Samsung phone.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> And now you pivot away from your claim of how wonderful   
   >>>>>>>>>> Samsung is!   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Samsung is wonderful for the products I've bought from it.   
   >>>>>>>>> Apple offers me nothing.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> You're the one who decided to die on the hill of Samsung being   
   >>>>>>>> better than Apple on the implied idea that they were less   
   >>>>>>>> expensive for such upgrades.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Don't blame me that you didn't have the wit to check if the   
   >>>>>>>> actual facts matched your attempted brag.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Samsung is better than Apple, yes, though I shy away from   
   >>>>>>> lambasting you personally with the matter, because you are a Mac   
   >>>>>>> user.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> They're certainly no better in the one area you were implying   
   >>>>>> Apple was so bad at:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> The price of upgrading from 512GB to 1TB.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Agreed?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> It shouldn't be hundreds upon hundreds, of dollars.   
   >>>   
   >>>> But it is...   
   >>>>   
   >>>> ...75% MORE expensive from Samsung...   
   >>>>   
   >>>> ...the company you CHOSE to compare Apple against.   
   >>>   
   >>> What I see on samsung.com tells me that proprietary devices are   
   >>> prohibitively expensive.  Which of the two companies has a walled   
   >>> garden, though?   
   >   
   >> Drag those goalposts!   
   >>   
   >> Did you imply that Apple charged more for such upgrades than Samsung   
   >> does?   
   >>   
   >> Yes or no.   
   >   
   >   
   > The point is, I have my Galaxy S21 that does everything a phone does,   
   > but I still have sanity in my personal computer.   
   Your point WAS that (supposedly) Apple was being horrible for charging   
   $200 to upgrade from 512GB to 1TB...   
      
   ...and that you suggested Samsung wouldn't do that.   
      
   ...and it turned out that Samsung was charging $350 for the same upgrade.   
      
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