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   Alan to Joel W. Crump   
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   11 Dec 25 22:03:53   
   
   XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy   
   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2025-12-11 19:03, Joel W. Crump wrote:   
   > On 12/11/25 8:45 PM, Alan wrote:   
   >   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you even understand that EVERY company charges   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever it thinks the traffic will bear?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why is 256 GB such a prominent option?  Apple is just   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chintzy.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So people who need less storage SHOULDN'T be allowed to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> choose it?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Again: you're making a mountain out of a mole hill.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Not remotely.  In 2021, I built my new PC with a 1 TB NVMe   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> drive. Apple still wants to sell you 256 GB, today.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> You still have this ridiculous idea that:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> What works for YOU...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> ...must be what works for EVERYONE.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> You know why I bought a 1 TB NVMe drive?  Because the old   
   >>>>>>>>>>> computer was upgraded from 1 TB SATA hard drive to SATA SSD.   
   >>>>>>>>>>> 1 TB was the gold standard.  Let's say we could make that 512   
   >>>>>>>>>>> GB. Why does it have to be 256, with Apple, *now in 2025*?   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Because there are people who really don't need more.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> I have quite a few clients, friends and family who will never   
   >>>>>>>>>> fill a 256GB drive.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> So that's good enough, for you, that some people can be good   
   >>>>>>>>> with 256, so Apple's just offering a good choice in that model.   
   >>>>>>>>> Inclusive to itself that is a good argument but it is lost when   
   >>>>>>>>> you see what the alternative really is, to not buy from   
   >>>>>>>>> freakin' Apple, and get the 512 GB or 1 TB, get the 32 GB RAM,   
   >>>>>>>>> get the price one is entitled to get and not Apple's extortion.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> No one is forcing anyone to buy Apple's products, child.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> They are, though, the cult will accept the extortion.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Once again, you imagine that people who don't agree with you can't   
   >>>>>> be rational.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> You have been extorted of your money by Apple by buying a Mac or   
   >>>>> iPhone.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Nope.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Simply, unequivocally bullshit you're spouting there.   
   >>>   
   >>> If you buy the minimum model, you get a very basic device.  It's   
   >>> still not cheap.   
   >>   
   >> Which doesn't make it "extortion", does it?   
   >   
   >   
   > Pretty much does.   
      
   You need to buy a dictionary.   
      
   >   
   >   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Samsung PCs are one thing.  But even Apple's Mac mini has   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the pricey upgrades of specs.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're the one who touted how "grateful" you were to be a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Samsung user.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And now you want to run away!   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't buy a Samsung laptop.  But I would a Samsung phone.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> And now you pivot away from your claim of how wonderful   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Samsung is!   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Samsung is wonderful for the products I've bought from it.   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Apple offers me nothing.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> You're the one who decided to die on the hill of Samsung being   
   >>>>>>>>>> better than Apple on the implied idea that they were less   
   >>>>>>>>>> expensive for such upgrades.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Don't blame me that you didn't have the wit to check if the   
   >>>>>>>>>> actual facts matched your attempted brag.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Samsung is better than Apple, yes, though I shy away from   
   >>>>>>>>> lambasting you personally with the matter, because you are a   
   >>>>>>>>> Mac user.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> They're certainly no better in the one area you were implying   
   >>>>>>>> Apple was so bad at:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> The price of upgrading from 512GB to 1TB.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Agreed?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> It shouldn't be hundreds upon hundreds, of dollars.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> But it is...   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> ...75% MORE expensive from Samsung...   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> ...the company you CHOSE to compare Apple against.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> What I see on samsung.com tells me that proprietary devices are   
   >>>>> prohibitively expensive.  Which of the two companies has a walled   
   >>>>> garden, though?   
   >>>   
   >>>> Drag those goalposts!   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Did you imply that Apple charged more for such upgrades than Samsung   
   >>>> does?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Yes or no.   
   >>>   
   >>> The point is, I have my Galaxy S21 that does everything a phone does,   
   >>> but I still have sanity in my personal computer.   
   >   
   >> Your point WAS that (supposedly) Apple was being horrible for charging   
   >> $200 to upgrade from 512GB to 1TB...   
   >>   
   >> ...and that you suggested Samsung wouldn't do that.   
   >>   
   >> ...and it turned out that Samsung was charging $350 for the same upgrade.   
   >   
   >   
   > You're putting it wrong, it's $400 to go from 256 GB to 1 TB, which is   
   > the real assault on the credit line of a potential buyer, Apple is only   
   > a little expensive if you're good at 256 GB, but you better pay through   
   > the nose if you want features.   
   >   
      
   So you want to drag the goalposts some more!   
      
   I used YOUR numbers and YOUR chosen alternative...   
      
   ...and you were WRONG.   
      
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