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   From: nobody@haph.org   
      
   Brock McNuggets    
   news:6938d21b$4$21961$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com Wed, 10 Dec 2025   
   01:51:24 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:   
      
   > On Dec 9, 2025 at 6:37:01 PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote   
   > :   
      
   >> David the dumbass, you do realize people can verify what he shared is   
   >> true don't you? It doesn't take much effort. He practically provided   
   >> step by step instructions. Face the facts, dishonest shitstain on the   
   >> underwear of life - you can't help snit fix his reputation as a very   
   >> well known lying, obnoxious troll, no matter how hard you try to lie   
   >> and cover for him.   
   >>   
   >> That's all you're doing here. You aren't helping Snit a bit by doing   
   >> this. You aren't helping the new comer establish any credibility here   
   >> with this ruse, either, bro.   
   >>   
   >> It's becoming very obvious as it does with others you've 'invited' here   
   >> that you gave him your version of the lay of the land prior to his   
   >> arrival. As I told him the other day/night? If it wasn't for two people   
   >> I greatly respect vouching for him, I'd already consider him as yet   
   >> another troll that you're responsible for bringing here.   
   >>   
   >> So whats the end game with this one, anyhow? Is it really about tech   
   >> discussions, or did you have something else in mind for him to be   
   >> doing? Keep in mind, he's already partially exposed...   
   >   
   > There is an effort to leave the nonsense in the past. Can you join us in   
   > being a part of the solution?   
      
   That's the second time you've mentioned "us" - who is us specifically? IE:   
   who are you referring to when you make that statement? The so called   
   nonsense isn't nonsense though, Snit. It's lies and stories you've been   
   known to write. I for one cannot just ignore it, just give you a free pass.   
   Which clearly is what you're expecting of myself and anyone else who isn't   
   part of the "us" collective that you've referenced several times now.   
      
   If you were actually serious about the so called peace and starting fresh,   
   You'd man up and apologize for the dishonest stories and accusations you've   
   already made. You don't even admit you did anything wrong at this point. You   
   axtually had the nerve to ask Nobody for MIDs showing that you lied. I   
   recently shared your floodbot accusation along with the two line reply you   
   wrote to me, where you accused me of writing a direct lie and lying about   
   David having done as I wrote he did. I shared the interactions between the   
   two of you doing exactly what I wrote that he did. I also mentioned the   
   generic as you could possibly write 'apology' you wrote to nobody specific   
   that didn't apologize for anything you actually did. In that case, (1)   
   claiming I wrote a direct lie and (2) denying that David did what I wrote he   
   did by stating that he'd done no such thing. Two lines was your entire reply   
   in that case and you lied with both of them! You also accused me of doing   
   something I did not do. I didn't write a direct lie, I didn't even write an   
   indirect one. I wrote no lies at all.   
      
   You know exactly why the court cases involving you aren't available via the   
   website anymore. You also know that anyone who wants to take the time and   
   make the effort can directly contact the court house and provide the case #s   
   to verify they do exist and are exactly as been shared before by several of   
   us. Several of us visited that arizona.gov website when your court cases   
   were available on it.   
      
   It took you days to finally write the generic apology, taking no   
   responsbility for anything you did and not apologizing to a single person   
   specifically; in that case, I would have been the only one you should have   
   addressed it too; I was the one you stated had written a direct lie when I   
   did nothing of the sort.   
      
   SC didn't fake anything with the screen shots he took or the list of the   
   issues you have had to attend court over previously. Most of them are   
   driving offenses due to lack of proper insurance. You seem to have a problem   
   following the law when it comes to keeping a valid insurance policy on the   
   vehicles youd drive.   
      
   I myself shared the list that was on the website and also included step by   
   step instructions for those who wanted to fact check myself and others about   
   them. I also took and shared screenshots. As did several others who saw it   
   when it was freshly posted. You know that the website doesn't keep those   
   things online forever, but the court case #s are still in existance and   
   those records can be requested by using them.   
      
   You stated that Roy was making things up and that he "forged" the evidence.   
   He did nothing of the sort, you openly lied about that and about him. You   
   are still lying about the driving offenses and the issues that took place   
   between you and the common law wife you are no longer living with.   
      
   How do you expect any reasonable person to ignore every single thing you've   
   done and "move forward in peace"? How can peace be achieved when you won't   
   own up to what you did and instead continue to claim those of us who write   
   about it are the ones lying when we aren't? That doesn't make any sense to   
   me, and no doubt, others reading these threads.   
      
   Michael, you don't want to move forward in peace. You want all of us to give   
   you a free pass for every single bullshit statement you've written. To   
   completely disregard all of it. And for you not to apologize for any of it.   
   That's not moving forward in peace. That's you not wanting to take any   
   responsibilty for what you've written several times now. I see no reason to   
   think that if your terms of moving forward in peace was actually taken   
   seriously that you wouldn't just continue doing what you're very well known   
   for. Lying your ass off.   
      
   I also wonder how you can want to move forward in peace when you claimed   
   that SC was a better coder than you when the truth is that neither of you   
   are coders AS you denied that I am and tried to claim my knowledge was   
   marginal at best. All in the same paragraph. That again isn't moving forward   
   in peace. That's you expecting conditions to be met which gives you a   
   completely free pass for everything you did upto that point.   
      
   Disregarding all the lies you've written about several of us isn't a way to   
   move forward in peace. If that actually was your goal and intention, you   
   would apologize for what you did. You'd do the right thing. Not double down   
   on your bullshit AS you try to mock me with this:   
      
      
   "And Carroll, at the very least, is clearly a better coder than I am. With my   
   understanding of the human side and his understanding of coding and your   
   understanding of some of the hardware level efficiency stuff (not sure how   
   needed that would be, but still good to have), we could really do something   
   pretty cool."   
      
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