XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy   
   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2025-12-12 08:36, Joel W. Crump wrote:   
   > On 12/12/25 1:03 AM, Alan wrote:   
   >   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you even understand that EVERY company charges   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever it thinks the traffic will bear?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why is 256 GB such a prominent option?  Apple is just   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chintzy.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So people who need less storage SHOULDN'T be allowed to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choose it?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Again: you're making a mountain out of a mole hill.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not remotely.  In 2021, I built my new PC with a 1 TB   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NVMe drive. Apple still wants to sell you 256 GB, today.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You still have this ridiculous idea that:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What works for YOU...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...must be what works for EVERYONE.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> You know why I bought a 1 TB NVMe drive?  Because the old   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> computer was upgraded from 1 TB SATA hard drive to SATA   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> SSD. 1 TB was the gold standard.  Let's say we could make   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> that 512 GB. Why does it have to be 256, with Apple, *now   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> in 2025*?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Because there are people who really don't need more.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> I have quite a few clients, friends and family who will   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> never fill a 256GB drive.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> So that's good enough, for you, that some people can be good   
   >>>>>>>>>>> with 256, so Apple's just offering a good choice in that   
   >>>>>>>>>>> model. Inclusive to itself that is a good argument but it is   
   >>>>>>>>>>> lost when you see what the alternative really is, to not buy   
   >>>>>>>>>>> from freakin' Apple, and get the 512 GB or 1 TB, get the 32   
   >>>>>>>>>>> GB RAM, get the price one is entitled to get and not Apple's   
   >>>>>>>>>>> extortion.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> No one is forcing anyone to buy Apple's products, child.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> They are, though, the cult will accept the extortion.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Once again, you imagine that people who don't agree with you   
   >>>>>>>> can't be rational.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> You have been extorted of your money by Apple by buying a Mac or   
   >>>>>>> iPhone.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Nope.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Simply, unequivocally bullshit you're spouting there.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> If you buy the minimum model, you get a very basic device.  It's   
   >>>>> still not cheap.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Which doesn't make it "extortion", does it?   
   >>>   
   >>> Pretty much does.   
   >>   
   >> You need to buy a dictionary.   
   >   
   >   
   > "I want Apple." "You will pay handsomely." "OK, cool, Steve Jobs, here's   
   > $1400, I have to have a MacBook Pro!"   
   >   
   >   
   > It's that "I have to have Apple" mentality that fucks everything up,   
   > they can turn it into a big game.   
      
   Even if all that were true (it's not)...   
      
   ...it still isn't "EXTORTION".   
      
   >   
   >   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Samsung PCs are one thing.  But even Apple's Mac mini   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has the pricey upgrades of specs.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're the one who touted how "grateful" you were to be   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a Samsung user.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And now you want to run away!   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't buy a Samsung laptop.  But I would a Samsung   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And now you pivot away from your claim of how wonderful   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Samsung is!   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Samsung is wonderful for the products I've bought from it.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple offers me nothing.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> You're the one who decided to die on the hill of Samsung   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> being better than Apple on the implied idea that they were   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> less expensive for such upgrades.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Don't blame me that you didn't have the wit to check if the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> actual facts matched your attempted brag.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Samsung is better than Apple, yes, though I shy away from   
   >>>>>>>>>>> lambasting you personally with the matter, because you are a   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Mac user.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> They're certainly no better in the one area you were implying   
   >>>>>>>>>> Apple was so bad at:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> The price of upgrading from 512GB to 1TB.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Agreed?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> It shouldn't be hundreds upon hundreds, of dollars.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> But it is...   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> ...75% MORE expensive from Samsung...   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> ...the company you CHOSE to compare Apple against.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> What I see on samsung.com tells me that proprietary devices are   
   >>>>>>> prohibitively expensive.  Which of the two companies has a walled   
   >>>>>>> garden, though?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> Drag those goalposts!   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Did you imply that Apple charged more for such upgrades than   
   >>>>>> Samsung does?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Yes or no.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> The point is, I have my Galaxy S21 that does everything a phone   
   >>>>> does, but I still have sanity in my personal computer.   
   >>>   
   >>>> Your point WAS that (supposedly) Apple was being horrible for   
   >>>> charging $200 to upgrade from 512GB to 1TB...   
   >>>>   
   >>>> ...and that you suggested Samsung wouldn't do that.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> ...and it turned out that Samsung was charging $350 for the same   
   >>>> upgrade.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> You're putting it wrong, it's $400 to go from 256 GB to 1 TB, which   
   >>> is the real assault on the credit line of a potential buyer, Apple is   
   >>> only a little expensive if you're good at 256 GB, but you better pay   
   >>> through the nose if you want features.   
   >>   
   >> So you want to drag the goalposts some more!   
   >>   
   >> I used YOUR numbers and YOUR chosen alternative...   
   >>   
   >> ...and you were WRONG.   
   >   
   >   
   > The point is, when one is assembling a system, the size of the SSD can   
   > be literally anything, it's just a part, Apple is a bunch of show-off   
   > corporate "I can afford this, I'm affluent" bullshit.   
   "When one is assembling a system".   
      
   Most people don't want to do that.   
      
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