XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy   
   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2025-12-12 14:50, Joel W. Crump wrote:   
   > On 12/12/25 3:19 PM, Alan wrote:   
   >   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you even understand that EVERY company charges   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever it thinks the traffic will bear?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why is 256 GB such a prominent option?  Apple is just   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chintzy.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So people who need less storage SHOULDN'T be allowed   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to choose it?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Again: you're making a mountain out of a mole hill.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not remotely.  In 2021, I built my new PC with a 1 TB   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NVMe drive. Apple still wants to sell you 256 GB, today.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You still have this ridiculous idea that:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What works for YOU...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...must be what works for EVERYONE.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You know why I bought a 1 TB NVMe drive?  Because the old   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer was upgraded from 1 TB SATA hard drive to SATA   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SSD. 1 TB was the gold standard.  Let's say we could make   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that 512 GB. Why does it have to be 256, with Apple, *now   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in 2025*?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because there are people who really don't need more.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have quite a few clients, friends and family who will   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> never fill a 256GB drive.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> So that's good enough, for you, that some people can be   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> good with 256, so Apple's just offering a good choice in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> that model. Inclusive to itself that is a good argument but   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> it is lost when you see what the alternative really is, to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> not buy from freakin' Apple, and get the 512 GB or 1 TB,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> get the 32 GB RAM, get the price one is entitled to get and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> not Apple's extortion.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> No one is forcing anyone to buy Apple's products, child.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> They are, though, the cult will accept the extortion.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Once again, you imagine that people who don't agree with you   
   >>>>>>>>>> can't be rational.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> You have been extorted of your money by Apple by buying a Mac   
   >>>>>>>>> or iPhone.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Nope.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Simply, unequivocally bullshit you're spouting there.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> If you buy the minimum model, you get a very basic device.  It's   
   >>>>>>> still not cheap.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Which doesn't make it "extortion", does it?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Pretty much does.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You need to buy a dictionary.   
   >>>   
   >>> "I want Apple." "You will pay handsomely." "OK, cool, Steve Jobs,   
   >>> here's $1400, I have to have a MacBook Pro!"   
   >>>   
   >>> It's that "I have to have Apple" mentality that fucks everything up,   
   >>> they can turn it into a big game.   
   >>   
   >> Even if all that were true (it's not)...   
   >>   
   >> ...it still isn't "EXTORTION".   
   >   
   >   
   > Sure looks that way to me.   
      
   Because you're ignorant.   
      
   >   
   >   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Samsung PCs are one thing.  But even Apple's Mac mini   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has the pricey upgrades of specs.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're the one who touted how "grateful" you were to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be a Samsung user.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And now you want to run away!   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't buy a Samsung laptop.  But I would a Samsung   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And now you pivot away from your claim of how wonderful   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Samsung is!   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Samsung is wonderful for the products I've bought from   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. Apple offers me nothing.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're the one who decided to die on the hill of Samsung   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> being better than Apple on the implied idea that they were   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> less expensive for such upgrades.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't blame me that you didn't have the wit to check if   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the actual facts matched your attempted brag.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Samsung is better than Apple, yes, though I shy away from   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> lambasting you personally with the matter, because you are   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> a Mac user.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> They're certainly no better in the one area you were   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> implying Apple was so bad at:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> The price of upgrading from 512GB to 1TB.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Agreed?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> It shouldn't be hundreds upon hundreds, of dollars.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> But it is...   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> ...75% MORE expensive from Samsung...   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> ...the company you CHOSE to compare Apple against.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> What I see on samsung.com tells me that proprietary devices are   
   >>>>>>>>> prohibitively expensive.  Which of the two companies has a   
   >>>>>>>>> walled garden, though?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Drag those goalposts!   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Did you imply that Apple charged more for such upgrades than   
   >>>>>>>> Samsung does?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Yes or no.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> The point is, I have my Galaxy S21 that does everything a phone   
   >>>>>>> does, but I still have sanity in my personal computer.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> Your point WAS that (supposedly) Apple was being horrible for   
   >>>>>> charging $200 to upgrade from 512GB to 1TB...   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> ...and that you suggested Samsung wouldn't do that.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> ...and it turned out that Samsung was charging $350 for the same   
   >>>>>> upgrade.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> You're putting it wrong, it's $400 to go from 256 GB to 1 TB, which   
   >>>>> is the real assault on the credit line of a potential buyer, Apple   
   >>>>> is only a little expensive if you're good at 256 GB, but you better   
   >>>>> pay through the nose if you want features.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> So you want to drag the goalposts some more!   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I used YOUR numbers and YOUR chosen alternative...   
   >>>>   
   >>>> ...and you were WRONG.   
   >>>   
   >>> The point is, when one is assembling a system, the size of the SSD   
   >>> can be literally anything, it's just a part, Apple is a bunch of   
   >>> show-off corporate "I can afford this, I'm affluent" bullshit.   
   >   
   >> "When one is assembling a system".   
   >>   
   >> Most people don't want to do that.   
   >   
   >   
   > OK, so pay them $400 for a $70 part.  Plus the value of the 256 GB SSD   
   > it replaced, in reality, it's extracted from your wallet by Apple's   
   > mighty macOS tentacles, they know you won't buy another brand.   
      
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