From: thomas.e.elam@gmail.com   
      
   On 12/11/2025 8:03 AM, -hh wrote:   
   > On 12/10/25 17:22, Tom Elam wrote:   
   >> On 12/10/2025 3:24 PM, -hh wrote:   
   >>> "...your 'results' speaking was evident in the first graph you   
   >>> provide: it had quite a bit of scatter from factors you weren't   
   >>> bothering to control for.  Since you've not improved the dataset, all   
   >>> you've done is to massage the existing datapoints into masking all of   
   >>> that variance."   
   >>   
   >> Yes, but that scatter was only 1 variable, OAT, that affects kWh used.   
   >   
   > Which you represented as your work product, not your starting point.   
      
   Not true, you made an assumption.   
      
   >   
   > Cherry-picking again, with what you choose to lie through omissions.   
   >   
   >   
   >> A major part of that apparent scatter was that there were other   
   >> independent variables in hand at the time but not controlled in the   
   >> scatter plot. When the additional independent variables are introduced   
   >> the kWh variance was significantly reduced.   
   >   
   > Not documented then, and adding in additional variables can help to   
   > tighten up a correlation, but it depends on how the weighing factors are   
   > tweaked...but that doesn't mean that there's solid scientific principles   
   > which justify the weighting factor values:  over time, one learns who's   
   > the better cheat by if the factors are based on optimizing the   
   > correlation versus having solid scientific principles for their value.   
   >   
   >   
   >> The main ones are changes we made in the house that reduced energy   
   >> lost rate and thus energy required to maintain temperature. Those   
   >> changes are documented by date and expense.   
   >   
   > Just because you used some obvious potential variables isn't proof that   
   > you couldn't have missed others which were less obvious/easy.   
      
   I tried other variables, home changes made and environmental.   
      
   >   
   > The statistics joke is that you're searching for your lost quarter under   
   > the streetlight, not where the quarter was actually dropped.   
      
   So where did the quarter drop?   
      
   >   
   >> I'm doubting if you every built a regression model.   
   >   
   > Whereas I'm seeing better why you had to work into your upper 70s.   
      
   LOL, the main reason was a divorce at age 56.   
      
   >>   
   >> Wrong. In the Vancouver market my home is a "trophy" worth well over   
   >> $1 million. Not here, where housing is much more affordable.   
   >   
   > Oh, so what you actually meant to say was that your "$1M" claim actually   
   > was how much it could be worth in Vancouver if it got teleported there.   
      
   What $1 million claim for my home? I live in an area populated by entire   
   subdivisions and individual $1+ million homes.   
      
   >   
   >   
   > Of course, considering Tommy's history & style of cherry-picking and   
   > stretching of things like what's "almost", a brag attempt of "almost 3   
   > months" could be as modest as just (2 months + 1 day) = 61 days.   
      
   61 does not round to 90. Just checking, I forgot to include a 6 day trip   
   to friends Michigan woods cabin in the diary. Actually 93 days.   
      
   >   
   >   
   >> Already planned 2 weeks in France next year, 2 weeks at Beaver creek   
   >> and some time in Florida. More to come.   
   >   
   > So 2026's looking to be another cheap year, at least so far.   
   >   
      
   Not a cheap year, we are doing a major kitchen/family room renovation   
   next month. Florida dates are locked down. Once the reno is paid for we   
   will have a better fix on other plans.   
      
   >   
   >> Travel has to compete for time doing other things, after all.   
   >   
   > Unfortunately the case.  Disruptions from unexpected health issues are   
   > an increasingly common factor as one gets older, for example.  And some   
   > folk will be tempted to count days in the hospital as "vacation away" /s   
   >   
   This statement is 100% correct.   
      
   >   
   > -hh   
      
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