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   On 12/13/25 07:22, CrudeSausage wrote:   
   > On 2025-12-12 11:11 p.m., Alan wrote:   
   >> On 2025-12-12 18:36, CrudeSausage wrote:   
   >>> On 2025-12-12 8:18 p.m., Alan wrote:   
   >>>> On 2025-12-12 16:56, CrudeSausage wrote:   
   >>>>> On 2025-12-12 3:20 p.m., Alan wrote:   
   >>>>>> ...etc...   
   >>>>>> Are Apple's storage upgrade prices really "ridiculous"?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> No, they aren't.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Here in Canada, I changed the 1TB nvme in my laptop to a 2TB one   
   >>>>> supporting OPAL hardware encryption for $175. It's actually   
   >>>>> increased in price to $255 now because of issues with memory chips.   
   >>>>> Meanwhile, upgrading the 512GB on the highest end MacBook Air to a   
   >>>>> 2TB nvme would cost me $900. I have no choice but to do it at   
   >>>>> purchase because Apple doesn't allow me to change the storage after   
   >>>>> I've received the machine.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> That is ridiculous, especially since there is _no_ speed advantage   
   >>>>> to using what Apple sells.   
      
   Hmmm...reviews in years past illustrated otherwise; my recollection is   
   that Apple has employed RAID 0 SSD boot drives, which is why my 3+yr old   
   Mac's SSD benchmarks at ~5,500MB/sec R/W, despite its then-current PCIe   
   3.0 x4 tech whose bandwidth limit is ~3,500 MB/s.   
      
      
   >>>>> I'm sure that you'll defend this practice of theirs, but I consider   
   >>>>> their pricing to be ridiculous and many YouTubers voicing their   
   >>>>> opinion on the matter share my opinion.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I'm not defending the practice.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I'm pointing out that it's what EVERY company does.   
   >>>   
   >>> You might be right. Either way, it is a disgusting practise. People   
   >>> should reject any hardware company which provides too little storage   
   >>> for the era, which demands exorbitant prices for upgrades or doesn't   
   >>> allow future upgrades.   
   >>   
   >> "People should"?   
   >>   
   >> People do what they feel is in their best interest.   
   >>   
   >> People LIKE laptops that are as thin as possible and that means   
   >> integrating components.   
   >>   
   >> No one is forcing them to buy.   
   >   
   > Yes, people should. The more people disregard that Apple prevents them   
   > from upgrading, fixing their machines and getting a respectable amount   
   > of storage for the time period, the more Apple will double down on the   
   > ripoff. As it is, Apple is benefiting from the fact that customers are   
   > looking for an alternative to Windows and enjoy the Apple experience,   
   > especially if they own other Apple products.   
      
   Or...its that Apple has an obligation to their Stockholders /s   
      
      
   > However, it's just a matter   
   > of time before people realize that they can get the 20-hour battery life   
   > from much less expensive Snapdragon laptops, that they can get double   
   > the storage and RAM by paying a few hundred less and that for the   
   > equivalent price of an Apple laptop that can probably play a card game   
   > or two, they can get a capable gaming machine.   
      
   Assuming that Microsoft finally does a good job with MS-Windows on ARM,   
   and gets their software vendors to follow with compiling native Apps.   
      
   > Additionally, instead of   
   > the seven years an Apple laptop lasts, a decent PC machine can easily   
   > last a decade, especially since manufacturers are not routinely   
   > soldering components to the motherboard the way Apple does.   
      
   Wish that was the case, because I've lost some Dell laptops from swollen   
   batteries at <3 years life:  it doesn't do much good to have upgradable   
   RAM/SSD designs when the office IT Department then won't even touch   
   replacing a battery: they just replace the whole kit 'n kaboodle with   
   new, reimage it to set it up & migrate user data.  Ditto for broken   
   smartphones too.   
      
      
   -hh   
      
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